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ianstone
07-21-2010, 07:56 AM
British troops could start coming back from Afghanistan next year, claims Cameron



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Last updated at 11:23 AM on 21st July 2010


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Britain could start withdrawing troops from Afghanistan as early as next year, David Cameron said today.
The Prime Minister insisted the UK could match a desire in the U.S. to start bringing its troops home from July 2011.
Mr Cameron has already declared his intention to have most British forces out of the war zone by 2015.
And at the weekend, Defence Secretary Liam Fox said even this was 'conservative' and they would aim to be out by 2014.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/07/21/article-1296472-0A81D4C5000005DC-592_468x408.jpg Home soon? Scots Guards searching for bombs in Afghanistan this week

Britain currently has 9,500 soldiers in the country with numbers set to increase before UK troops pull-out of the violent Sangin region.

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Mr Cameron, asked if British soldiers could come home from next year, said: 'Yes, we can but it should be based on the conditions on the ground.
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/07/21/article-1296472-0A83690A000005DC-950_233x329.jpg Withdrawal: David Cameron at the White House yesterday

'I mean, the faster we can transition districts and provinces to Afghan control, clearly the faster that some forces can be brought home,' he told the BBC.

'I don't want to raise expectations about that because that transition should be based on how well the security situation is progressing.'
He reassured the British public there would be no 'combat troops or large numbers' in Afghanistan by 2015.

His comments came after he discussed the war with President Barack Obama at the White House and an international summit in Kabul yesterday.

Both men are under strong domestic pressure to bring troops home but have also said they are determined to succeed in their mission to stabilize the country.
'Victory in this war is being able to hand over to an Afghan government and an Afghan army and police force that are capable of securing their own country,' he told GMTV.
William Hague, in Kabul for yesterday's conference, was forced to deny the conflict in Afghanistan is 'unwinnable'.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/07/21/article-1296472-0A823768000005DC-314_468x290.jpg United front: Afghan President Hamid Karzai with Hillary Clinton, William Hague and other foreign ministers in Kabul yesterday



http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/07/21/article-1296472-0A8285FD000005DC-908_468x301.jpg Summit: The lavish Foreign Affairs Ministry in Kabul where foreign ministers discussed the conflict and how to hand back control

The Foreign Secretary was was pushed on the defensive after U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton expressed American doubts about whether success against the Taliban is 'even possible'.
More than 70 foreign ministers agreed Afghans would take control of the country's security by 2014, allowing NATO troops to come off the frontline.
Mr Hague told Radio 4: 'We have said we won't be there in five years' time with combat troops in combat but that's not remotely saying we cannot win.'
For British troops to come home, Afghan soldiers and police need to take over security and critics are sceptical they will be up to the task.

A total of 322 British soldiers have now been killed in the conflict since it was launched in 2001.


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MickDonalds
07-21-2010, 10:49 AM
He'd better be just paying lip service and not be serious.

The UK has a responsibility and vested interest to wait this fight out, just as we Americans do. If anything, I'd say the UK is under MORE of a terrorist threat from "sleeper cells" than the US currently is. I could be wrong, I'm just basing that on the droves of blatantly open, hateful Muslims being urged on by radical clerics all over England.

Scott
07-21-2010, 11:58 AM
He'd better be just paying lip service and not be serious.

The UK has a responsibility and vested interest to wait this fight out, just as we Americans do. If anything, I'd say the UK is under MORE of a terrorist threat from "sleeper cells" than the US currently is. I could be wrong, I'm just basing that on the droves of blatantly open, hateful Muslims being urged on by radical clerics all over England.oh you're totally right, it would be nice for the troops to come home, im not saying it isn't it would be nice for all our troops and NATO forces to leave, but why leave so soon? i still think 2014 will be to soon.

around 2017-2020 sounds more realistic, lets be realistic here, the Taliban are good at fighting, there sure as hell determind we know that, they are ghosts(idiot fucking ghosts they may be) we have thousands upon thousands of troops there fighting with the best technology in the war, yes we are winning, slowly but surely.

we need to kill every single one of them, and that will take years, to atleast desrupt their Spine big time!.... the fight is hard right now, its fierce intense and is like hell alot(i do not speak out of experience but from the troops who have compared this place) our troops are determind as hell to get the job done its tought, we have more knowledge then the Afghan Army and police and im afraid they are not strong enough in numbers or upto scratch yet to take on the tlaiban by themselves.

they need a army like the UK's or US's , a big storng Army, with fire power/ from alot of tanks to alot of helicopters/jets. not to mention the ground computers they will need for inteligence.... and to do all this they will need to be trained , so they can get the best out of the technology provided.

im sorry if i went on abit but i think if we pull out in 2014 or 2015, the taliban will rebuild itself alot easier and less pressure on them, it will jsut start all over again in years after pulling out.

the Terror threat in the UK is very high.

Scott.

ianstone
07-21-2010, 04:14 PM
Your on the money Mick, the UK have some serious heavy shit heading there way. God help us