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06-13-2010, 01:46 PM
Suspect's mom: Son 'stupid kid,' not a terrorist

From Kiran Khalid, CNN
June 13, 2010 -- Updated 1731 GMT (0131 HKT)

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STORY HIGHLIGHTS

Mother of New Jersey terror suspect insists son "not a terrorist"
Son and his friend charged with conspiracy to kill outside U.S.
Mahmood Alessa's girlfriend says they were supposed to marry in Egypt
New York (CNN) -- The mother of one of the two New Jersey men arrested last week at a New York airport allegedly on their way to fight with an al Qaeda-affiliated group in Somalia says the two men are guilty of stupidity -- but not of the sinister plan described by authorities.
"Anything makes him angry. But he's not a terrorist; he's a stupid kid," Nadia Alessa said of her U.S.-born son, Mahmood.
Mohamed Mahmood Alessa, 20, of North Bergen, New Jersey, and Carlos Eduardo Almonte, 24, of Elmwood Park, New Jersey, are charged with one count each of conspiracy to kill, maim and murder persons outside of the United States, which carries a maximum sentence of life in prison.
The men, who were taken into custody at John F. Kennedy International Airport on June 5, intended to take separate flights to Egypt on their way to Somalia "to join designated foreign terrorist organization Al-Shabaab and wage violent jihad," according to federal prosecutors.
The criminal complaint filed in U.S. District Court in Newark alleges that in 2007, Alessa and Almonte traveled together to Jordan, where they intended to enter Iraq to commit violence against U.S. troops there.
Nadia Alessa told CNN that her son went to 16 or 17 psychiatrists for what she called "anger management issues" that surfaced when he was a boy. He lived at his parents well-kept home, where his angry outbursts were common.
However, she said, he wasn't particularly religious. "He slept late. If he was devout, he would make his prayers on time. He didn't," she said.
She helped him pack for his trip to Egypt, though she said she resisted the idea from the start. Nadia Alessa said she was reassured by a man named "Bassim," who had befriended her son and Almonte.
"He said we're gonna study Arabic. I said but here there are many schools. But he say in Egypt, they're better," she recalled being told by the man when she expressed concerns about Alessa moving to Egypt.
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"Don't worry, I take care of them," she said Bassim told her days before her son and Almonte were arrested boarding a flight to Egypt. She said she believes the man was an undercover federal agent who recorded her son making incendiary comments against the United States and continued to build the case against him and Almonte.
"Since I saw him, I warned my son and Carlos," Nadia Alessa said. "But my son say 'Always you say about my friends they are undercover.' "
The Alessa family invited CNN on Saturday also talk to a woman who said she was set to marry Mahmood Alessa upon his arrival in Egypt. Nadia Alessa said she met her son's girlfriend the night before.
The 19-year-old woman, who said her name is Siham, sat at the family's home, cloaked in a niqab, a veil that covers the entire body and face with only a sheer cloth revealing the eyes. She said she met Mahmood Alessa in an online chat room.
Siham showed CNN her passport stamped June 9, 2010, indicating her arrival at Kennedy airport from Paris, France. She also produced her airline itinerary, which shows that her trip started in Cairo -- where, she says, she was waiting for Alessa.
"We were supposed to get married and study awhile in Egypt. That was the plan," Siham told CNN.
She said she moved from Sweden, where she was born to Egyptian parents, to Cairo at Alessa's behest a few months ago.
When he didn't arrive in Cairo on June 6, she was shocked to learn from a friend in New York that her soon-to-be fiance had been arrested.
"She told me that Mohamed got arrested for terrorism and that they were saying he was going to Somalia," Siham said in disbelief. "So I didn't know what to do; words can't explain what I felt. I was in shock and I couldn't stop crying."
She said she boarded a flight and arrived in New York a day before Alessa's arraignment Thursday. It was then that she saw him for the first time, through a veil in a federal courtroom.
"I didn't have any ticket booked or anything. I just went to the airport and I booked a ticket from there, and I left," Siham said.
CNN recently learned that Alessa and Almonte were followers of an extreme Islamist group based in New York. CNN obtained an image of the two suspects attending a protest in New York organized by the Islamic Thinkers Society on June 1. They appear to have been taking part in a demonstration against Israel.
One is holding a banner, the other an Islamic Thinkers Society poster that includes the slogan, "Exterminate the Zionist Roaches." The society's video of the event, posted on its YouTube channel, has since been removed.
The rally took place a week before the two men made their way to Kennedy airport and were arrested.
"My soul cannot rest till I shed blood. I wanna like be the world's [best] known terrorist," Alessa is alleged to have told an undercover agent in the United States last year. Later he said, "We'll start doing killing here, if I can't do it over there."
Another image -- from late 2008 -- shows Almonte at a different rally, holding a poster that says "Death to all Juice" (sic). It's not clear whether that rally was organized by the Islamic Thinkers Society.
When asked about the rallies Alessa attended, Siham insisted his presence was a show of outrage -- not intent.
"But that doesn't make him a terrorist. That only shows how much he dislikes what the people are doing to the Muslims," she said. "That doesn't show he was going to Somalia and do anything."

Comments
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humana The Feds should have allowed these anal Mohammed fornicators safe passage to Somalia. They would likely survive a week or two and the American taxpayer would have saved millions in legal costs defending these fools.





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ragehavoc Stupid kid? Hes 20 years old if he doesnt know right from wrong he is ignorant and so is the mother.Alot of parents believe there child is something "special" and parents even tell there kids these things because in a parents eyes there child is golden, an idiocy that ruins most people because no on... more (http://edition.cnn.com/2010/US/06/12/new.jersey.terror.suspects/index.html#)
Stupid kid? Hes 20 years old if he doesnt know right from wrong he is ignorant and so is the mother.
Alot of parents believe there child is something "special" and parents even tell there kids these things because in a parents eyes there child is golden, an idiocy that ruins most people because no one is special lol less (http://edition.cnn.com/2010/US/06/12/new.jersey.terror.suspects/index.html#)





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busydoc Stupidity is the basis of most criminals and likely the majority of terrorists.Otherwise they would be retired wealthy BP executives.



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Latincitizen Stupid enough to go all the way through with the act I bet.





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GR8H8 Could just be that he's a "stupid" terrorist! The problem is that people who come from third-world countries don't understand our culture & we (quite frankly) don't really understand theirs. If they see sh** getting blown up they don't think of peace. If we see sh** getting blown up we don't think o... more (http://edition.cnn.com/2010/US/06/12/new.jersey.terror.suspects/index.html#)
Could just be that he's a "stupid" terrorist! The problem is that people who come from third-world countries don't understand our culture & we (quite frankly) don't really understand theirs. If they see sh** getting blown up they don't think of peace. If we see sh** getting blown up we don't think of peace. It will NEVER end. Sadly if we didn't NEED oil we would NEVER have ANY intervention with the middle east PERIOD! less (http://edition.cnn.com/2010/US/06/12/new.jersey.terror.suspects/index.html#)






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Renokid It is becoming more and more apparent that Muslims do not come to America in order to change or improve their lives. Rather they come here in order to change America into what they left behind. It is also apparent that our government has no intention of stopping this outrage.






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th3cheat You're right. We should just infringe upon the rights of all Muslims that travel to our country, because obviously, "Muslims do not come to America in order to change or improve their lives." Our government is so lazy...






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Galaor55 "Islamic Thinkers Society"? What do they do? Do they just sit around thinking of ways to blow up American buildings and how to murder our fellow citizens with suicide bombers? Think about that.





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inspiral "Islamic Thinkers Society" Read the slogan's on their banners, it's a perfect example of an oxymoron...




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TEAPARTY1904 Yeah we do the same thing down ther in Langley.





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RichardsDad The mother was always warning her son that his friends really were undercover agents? Why would she care unless the son was doing something illegal?




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Xilonen Because since 2001 it's practically been a crime just to be Muslim. If she's right and he's had anger and behavioral issues since childhood, she may have every reason to think that he'd say something dumb that would be misconstrued or taken out of context, leading to his arrest and perhaps convictio... more (http://edition.cnn.com/2010/US/06/12/new.jersey.terror.suspects/index.html#)
Because since 2001 it's practically been a crime just to be Muslim. If she's right and he's had anger and behavioral issues since childhood, she may have every reason to think that he'd say something dumb that would be misconstrued or taken out of context, leading to his arrest and perhaps conviction because of the hostile mood in America. less (http://edition.cnn.com/2010/US/06/12/new.jersey.terror.suspects/index.html#)





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busydoc He tried not to be stupid but in the end it was futile.





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Galaor55 They resemble a Forrest Gump-like stupidity. "Stupid is as stupid does," he used to say.



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Jimcon You'd have to be stupid to want to kill innocent people; but that's still a crime.




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Capnmike Since when is "stupidity" an excuse???





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Thorrsman Pretty stupid to think that you could take control of an airliner with just five guys and box cutters. REALLY stupid to think that you could do it on four planes at the same time and use them as "guided missiles". And yet these "stupid" people hit three out of their four targets. THAT trick only wor... more (http://edition.cnn.com/2010/US/06/12/new.jersey.terror.suspects/index.html#)
Pretty stupid to think that you could take control of an airliner with just five guys and box cutters. REALLY stupid to think that you could do it on four planes at the same time and use them as "guided missiles". And yet these "stupid" people hit three out of their four targets. THAT trick only works once, but what other stupid ideas do they have that they need stupid people to carry out? less (http://edition.cnn.com/2010/US/06/12/new.jersey.terror.suspects/index.html#)






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th3cheat @boogieman972 I feel like most people should be used to the lack of education in the Tea Party. No huge surprise.



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th3cheat @boogieman972 I feel like most people should be used to the lack of education in the Tea Party. No huge surprise.





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boogieman972 TP1904 "Stupider" is not a word. Stupid cannot be conjugated as such. Thusly, should be used as "more stupid".





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Thorrsman TEAPARTY1904 Do you understand the concept of "sarcasm"?




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TEAPARTY1904 you know whats even stupider is when an international airport doesnt stop four known terrorest before entering a pklane w/ box cutters. and lets just say it for the record what started all this again? A yeah a couple of stupid guys with box cutters. Now whos stupider the most tech. adv. countries be... more (http://edition.cnn.com/2010/US/06/12/new.jersey.terror.suspects/index.html#)
you know whats even stupider is when an international airport doesnt stop four known terrorest before entering a pklane w/ box cutters. and lets just say it for the record what started all this again? A yeah a couple of stupid guys with box cutters. Now whos stupider the most tech. adv. countries being put to are knees from box cutters or the guys who stop the strongest country known to man w/ a couple of box cutters. FYI ever try to get in the cockpit of a 737 in flight? who realy stupid? less (http://edition.cnn.com/2010/US/06/12/new.jersey.terror.suspects/index.html#)

joelee
06-13-2010, 01:57 PM
I'd like to get ahold of this last guy to comment with a box cutter.
Anyway, we have got to find a way to rid this country of the people who want to come from other countries and either change our ways, or to do us harm.

death2mooj
06-13-2010, 02:35 PM
America cant be tolerate of other countries beliefs when they move here Joe. That is the only way to put a stop to it. If you want to move to America then do so but dont expect it to be like it was back home, if they like that style of life then they should stay there.

Politically correct needs to be the first thing to go, once that is gone and politicians grow some balls and stand up to the scumbag lawyers. If I was in power all this would change and the first lawyer to try to stop me would be tried for treason, after one gets hung they wont push the PC issue any more

MickDonalds
06-13-2010, 11:21 PM
Funny how Momma always says "Oh my son was just mixed up with some bad people, he's a good kid really", and not "Well..I guess he'll learn his lesson in prison when the rhino-dicked black boys come for his ass"

You guys are right about racial profiling. It makes sense and it works in other countries. Until that part of the world stops trying to blow us all to hell, it's people are going to have to be subjected to unfortunate prejudice, even the good ones. It sucks for them, but it's for the better of ALL.

joelee
06-14-2010, 05:26 AM
The proble now is that they are comming here and having"anchor"babies that are American citizens. We need to change the laws so that both your parents have to be citizens or you have to go throught the legal way like everyone else. Its not the 1800s anymore, the laws need to be changed.

MickDonalds
06-14-2010, 09:27 AM
The mexicans have been dropping "anchors" here for the last 20 some odd years. They'll wait until a woman is about 30 weeks, and THEN they cross the border. Of course, 1 month later and out comes Jose, and they get to stay all at the giving, kind hands of John and Jane Q. Taxpayer. Nice system huh?

death2mooj
06-15-2010, 02:56 AM
The proble now is that they are comming here and having"anchor"babies that are American citizens. We need to change the laws so that both your parents have to be citizens or you have to go throught the legal way like everyone else. Its not the 1800s anymore, the laws need to be changed.

I have felt the same way for a long time.

dmaxx3500
06-15-2010, 10:47 PM
lets just load up these 2 and his mom and ship em all out of here,,hell find all their relitives and ship them out too,,it would be a start