ianstone
05-21-2010, 10:13 AM
If am not happy i would leave and find somewhere i'm welcome or would I get more by playing the race card?
Comments received:
I am a British Muslim revert expat,
:-$ married to a Pakistani Muslim
ex pat, living in Cyprus. I left
the UK because of the spiraling
crime rate, high cost of living and
the rapid decline of morals,
promoted on UK TV, pop-culture and
newspapers, which makes me almost
ashamed to say I am British born.
Those who say it is a Christian
country must be overlooking the
fact that Christianity does not
promote immorality, the likes of
which is shown time and time again
poisoning our children's minds.
Diane Akbar, Lemesos, Cyprus
Greetings to all.
I get the feeling that most of the indigenous folks commntng here r missing a point. Britain is also home for many of us who are still considered as outsiders and our loyalty to God, Queen and Country is 2nd to none. However there are some disillusioned nut cases within our community who capture the headlines now and then while the like of us r never asked how we feel(hmmm). These nut cases are found in every community not just among the Muslims and this is worth noting.
Immy, London, United Kingdom
Modibhai - For a start Gunhilde is a female not a male name. I am glad the Raj is over since I believe it is wrong to settle in a foreign country and not integrate and the people of India were quite right to demand their homeland back. One aspect of racism however is when you expect certain rights for yourself which are not prepared to extend to others. Therefor it is racist to expect your own national integrity and refuse to recognise the same right for anyone else. Ring any bells?
Gunhilde, York, United Kingdom
Muslim News Editor
You very conviniently choose to ingnore useful comments by muslim commentators but selectively allow the pathatic loonys i.e Gunhilde to comment as he pleases. People like you need a remainder that the British Raj is over now so please don't feel to obliged to the white man. This commentator is racist insulting and offens many of the readers but you publish him yet many of my relavent positive comments have been blatently ignore by you. Maybe I should change my name 2 Steve.
Modibhai, Khotali, India
Well Wahida,- So thrilled you feel that being a Muslim is enough to fulfill all your ambitions in life - since your level of English literacy is unlikely to fulfill the requirements of a possible future employer.
Meanwhile, though I see you don't care for the country you were born in please try to understand that those of us who do, feel that if you accept a countries' protection common decency demands you give a certain loyalty back or move to somewhere you can operate with more integrity.
gunhilde, york, United Kingdom
subhanala am a muslim thats it i dont care where i was born or where my parents are from am a muslim
wahida, lonson, United Kingdom
I'm Muslim first, British Somali second. race doesnt bother me as much as religion and nationality. is important for me to understand my religion is the most important aspect of my life, then be proud of my roots as Somali girl who moved to this country as a child. because i moved to this country i have duties and respect that i must adhere to.
Fatima, London, United Kingdom
According to Islamic teaching,When we residie here as British national. we are enjoy the rights as British national. That why we are British Muslim.
Muhammad Azam Maken, London, Botswana
I am a Creature of Allah (The master of the universe). i am a muslim,beliver in one true God (Allah).i dont worry much about the envoronment i live in,whether it be in a jungle,desert,mountin,town,village,with good people around,or bad people,racist or atheist ,because we all belong to Allah and every soul will have to answer for it's action after it's depature from this life.
Ali, London, United Kingdom
It is very sad to read most of the comment by the non-muslims here but who could blame them. Lets be realistic, the astonishing silence by the muslims community leaders to openly, nationally condemning & challenging the likes of Anjem Choudhary and Islam4uk alike has tarnish the moderate decent law abiding muslims in UK.
Its a general perception now that all muslims supported 9/11, 7/7 evil acts because the likes of MCB (labour chums)are 4ever quiet & others elders can't even speak english.
Immy, London, United Kingdom
My parents are from Pakistan, but I am proudly to say that I am British born muslim. When I go and visit Pakistan but its nice go there and see a different life to how we live but when the plane touches down in manchester I say Yes! I am home.
I am pround to be living in Britian today I work, study part time,be a mother to my 4 boys and wife and practise Islam and find more knowledge regarding my religon. I don't thing that if I was living in Pakistan I would get that chance.
NAZIA , KEIGHLEY, United Kingdom
The problems in the middle east are caused by arabs, in particular the terrorist of hamas etc created by the arch terrorist arafat. There has never been a nation or people called palestinians. Israel who was renamed palestine by the romans.That is the ONLY reference to palestine.
Before the jews came back to Israel in the late nineteenth century there were very few people of any nationality living in the area.This is born out by the turks census of the time and noted people of the tim,
bernie, london, United Kingdom
Britain like many other western countries have wripped the identity of muslims around the world by showing only a violent few they fail to cover is real muslim people living normally like any other person in the world.children go to school adults go to work, they come home and enjoy family company not plan the next terrorist movement.They dont want you to see the peaceful side of muslims as they are afraid you will ditch the stereotypical identiy they persistantly tailored your minds to believe.
Sabah, London, United Kingdom
I do not understand the question? Britain is a country and not a faith. I can understand you asking what does one feel about ones country of birth i.e. Pakistan, as a resident of Britain. What are the differences and how do you feel but Islam can only be compared with another faith or cult...... i.e as a Muslim, how do you feel about living in a Christian environment ? That question would make sense but Britain has nothing to do with it. Have you not noticed that Britain is a country?
Shmuel Ben Dovid, Manchester, United Kingdom
I regard myself as Muslim British. I was born and bred in the UK and this country has afforded me many opportunities, for example a good education. I am a qualified english teacher and wear full Hijab. I do not feel there is any conflict between the different dimensions of my identity. I thank Allah that I am both Muslim and British.
umme muhammad, leicester, United Kingdom
Muslims can practice their faith freely in Britain, but Christians can't do the same in a number of muslim countries, like Saudi Arabia, Iran and Afganistan. Christians are also constant victims of persecution from Muslims in coutries like Indonesia, Egypt and Malasia. My question is: why should we Western Christians give you Muslims "rights" and liberties you Muslims deny us in Muslim nations?
Larry Martins Fernandes, Goiania, Brazil
Most immigrant groups have a desire to integrate and do so effectively. However, many Muslims actively segregate themselves, disrespect our laws and values, exploit all that our society has to offer (including the right to free speech) whilst simultaneously working towards turning it into an Islamic state (in which such rights would be denied them!).
Steve Brown, London, United Kingdom
Islam is TOTALLY incompatible with civilised democracy, human rights, equality, freedom and scientific development. It's a back-ward looking system of indoctrination, bigotry and discrimination, from the dark ages of ignorance and tribal wars.
Only an equal and just, secular society, with multicultural integration (rather than segregation) can ensure world peace and prosperity for all.
Steve Brown, London, United Kingdom
Unless Muslims born in the UK can
acknowledge that they subjects of
the(Christian)Monarch, and affirm
that the British Isles should
always be a democratic land(s)
governed by man made(and
unmade)laws,then since they are
unable to share in the values of
national unity, they cannot be
properly described as 'British'. UK
citizenship is only the pre-
requisite.
Jac Maclean, London, United Kingdom
Gunhilde is factually incorrect. Ethnic cleansing is criminal intent, never have the muslim BME community sought to cleanse an area. In fact in the first upwardly mobile move in my childhood were the whites who moved in the 1960's ironically due to the strange smelling food. It was the whites who were incrdibly racist and the community leaders wanted to keep us quiet. We kept quiet when Powell was attacking us, if we had been more vocal and reactive much of the extremism wud not have happened.
Mizan, Luton, United Kingdom
Mizan The irony is that it was the chattering classes who supported mass immigration as they supported secularisation and equal rights for women and homosexuals.
It never entered their smug little minds that these were mutually antagonistic aims.
The white working class culture which I grew up in was ethnically cleansed and communities destroyed by imported cheap labour and a 24 hour drinking and benefit culture designed to neutralise the masses.
This election might be their salvation.
gunhilde, york, United Kingdom
It is ironic that the early muslim immigrants to the USA were staunchley republican. This was because the GOP held fundamental values in keeping with islam, eg marriage between men and women. It is the overall loss in values in the UK that has created chasm within men/women, class, race and religion. From a cohesion viewpoint the absence of common values bewteen the muslims and the white poor is huge. Many issues are irreconcilable and this could be a problem at the election.
Mizan, Luton, United Kingdom
who cares what ethnicity you come from, what defines my identity is my religiuos values.I was born and bread in london so yes ofcours uk is home for me.There is many great about this country it the acceptance of all faiths and belief there is alot of things to be proud of, our fine schools, public services oh yes and our medical health care gets paid for and the local chip shop :.p, i despair the govrmnt the invding of another country to get rid of weapons of mass destruction that wern't there
Rumana, London, United Kingdom
I think it is important that a disctinction between being british and being engligh. Yes, my parents are from Pakistan, Yes they are british, Yes they are Muslims. But are they engligh? NO
Waheed, Wiltshire, United Kingdom
My friends, if you choose to live/reside in the UK then you are ENGLISH! That country deserves your allegiance. But, if you don't agree - then leave! But don't be a parasite and use that countries benefits & thereafter bad-mouth it. I'm sure if you look at the country you (your family) originated from - you will see that the 'grass is not greener on the other side...'
So stop moaning about how 'different' things are in Europe and get on with making a contribution to all of society.
JZNdluli, Ghwar, Saudi Arabia
To Mohammed Rashid Ahmed, when you
and others like you use the term 'non
muslim ruled land' and 'muslim land',
can you please explain what you mean?
Steve, Ipswich, United Kingdom
Mohammed - So you choose to sit like Patience on a monument awaiting the arrival of your Islamic Eldorado in a country where non-Muslims outnumber Muslims 30 to 1 and in a climate which has never been so hostile to Islam.
Why don't you choose an Islamic country you can give yourself to body and soul?
We will happily forgo your contribution to the British economy. It's not as if there aren't thousands desperate to replace you who would happily contribute more wholeheartedly to life in Britain
Gunhilde, York, United Kingdom
Well Mohammed, why wait get yourself to one of the many muslim countries that exist now because waiting for the UK to be ruled by the quran might involve a long wait.
You see the longer muslims live in the West the quicker that they give up their religion.
james, newcastle upon tyne, United Kingdom
Salaam,
Who do I think I am?
I am a Muslim who has been born on Non Muslim Ruled land who has made a contribution like many from abroad and who's parents are from a broad for the better, who holds a British Passprt.
I call homa a place that i awaiten to come into to existence once a Land is ruled according to Qur'an & Sunnah, one that is Officially known through out the world as the Islamic State Insha'Allah
Wasalaam
Mohammed Rashid Ahmed, London, United Kingdom
muslim fullstop
nasser, bolton, United Kingdom
1. 5% of Black US residents are in
Prisons compared to 0.7% of Whites
(2008, BJS). Why?
2. Muslims in the UK are not here
for "refuge" - what cheek! Many are
here because the UK needed highly
skilled personnel and manual
labour.
3. Many Muslims are here because
the UK has set fire to their
homeland. If you set fire to your
neighbour's house they will come to
shelter in yours. Don't
attack/dominate Muslim nations and
Muslims will not bother to come to
the UK - simple!
Munir, Guildford, Ukraine
muslims sufer from an identity crisis, which others do not,not as much. They want to be good muslim,and at the sametime want to enjoy good things of british life,some of them not allowed by their religion. Muslims claimto be more religious than others,and still eleven percent of prisoners in UK jails are muslims.
Peter , Canada
So Many issues out there!
Marriage: those Muslims who ask their spouses to convert before marriage - are they not compelling them - Islam is submission to God, not to a spouse??? Better to marry in Islam but not wrong if with people of Books.
War and Soldiers: just another war on another Muslim country! Get the soldiers back home and stop being Imperialistic! Do we have to wait for another Afghan war inquiry before we realize?!?
Instead invade "Israel" to keep peace - we'll all sign up!!
19, Newport, United Kingdom
Syed- I don't see much difference in your attitude and that of nationalists who say people shouldn't
marry outside their own national identity to preserve the cultural integrity of a nation. The only difference is that our government has pandered to the faith based dynamic and tried to erase the cultural one. This is now in the process of backfiring spectacularly. Instead of a multicultural society what we actually have is an angry, broken, apartheid one.
I fear this is not going to end well.
GUNHILDE, YOPRK, United Kingdom
Mohammed Islam is a way of life a code of existence not just a religon it GUIDES ALL ASPECTS OF YOUR LIFE marriage is half of Islam so it is important we marry within the boundary of what islam allows so we can implement islam RACE is not an issue my own auntie is white but she converted befor she met by uncle muslims marraying muslims of all races is OK but MARRYING OTHER FAITHS destroyes the implementaiton of islam in the home so is not acceptable, you cant implement islam without true faith
syed jamil hussain, abbottabad, Pakistan
What really worries many non-
Muslims is the treatment of other
religions in Islamic countries.The
feeling is that when there is a
majority of Muslims in the
U.K.sharia law will be
introduced.Other religions will be
persecuted and churches and
synogogues destroyed.Many Muslims
will be shocked and deny that this
could ever happen.They should look
at countries like Saudi
Arabia.There is the proof.
JOE, CLITHEROE, United Kingdom
Having served in the British Army for 8 years, and proud to have done so, i can tell your racist magazine that at least 42% of my fellow soldiers are supporters of the BNP. This has come about because of the racist attitude of the Muslim youth of Britain who don't appreciate the country that constantly provides for them. None of these ungrateful fools would last 10 minutes on the streets of Afghanistan because of their pampered upbringing. Support the country that gave refuge to your forefathers
ali baba, bradford, United Kingdom
Our thoughts go out to the British and other nationalities together with Pakistan fighting the vile Taliban. These fanatics must and will be defeated to preserve freedom for man women and child. I know that the majority of British Muslims are backing all soldiers fighting a good cause..
Steve , London , United Kingdom
My heart sinks every time I hear on the
news that a British soldier is killed, I'm a
British Muslim and proud of it, It makes me
angry when some Muslims shout abuse at
the returning British soldiers because I
intend to become one.
I love this country just the way it is, I don't
want to change it, because it's our country
and don't challenge my love for it.
Remember; if all rapists are men does that
mean all men should be accused of rape ?
Salaam
Omur, High Wycombe , United Kingdom
Please open up this site to other topics!
I think that I am a Muslim who is constantly set aside, ignored and place to the rear of the Bus.
At the same time, people of all walks, come to my educated brothers to be treated in Hospitals, Clinics and other facilities. We work in High Tech and Space Industries, people from the Middle East fill jobs that no WASP is smart enough to fill.
Where do you get off in your rude manner, rude treatment and high hatted positions. Get a Life!
Timespanr, Las Vegas, Nevada, United States
I am a white, christian male. I've just reached my 15th year of service in the Royal Marine Commandos. In my team i have white, black, arab,chinese races; christian, muslim, atheist, buddist religions. The common denominator is we respect each other, would die for each other, eat, drink, socialise and fight alongside each other and each familiy accept us when we visit. These are my friends. Religion comes secondly to our respect and friendship. why can't the rest of you look past your religion?
John Bull, London, United Kingdom
I am british-muslim. I don't feel like there is any conflict. British people just need to see a very good picture of islam and muslims before they can become muslims and i hope we all can help with that.
tarek, london, United Kingdom
Muslims living in the UK. This country has a more closer system of governance to Islam than any other country in the world.It assists its citizens and gives them respect and provides people with a general sense of tranuility and mutual respect. There is no surprise that the Prohophet sent a Muslim group to seek refuge in the lands of Christendom.We must prioritise our loyalty with our faith,for faith is the common denominator amongst migrat communities, the one aspect that defines us.
Humayun Khan, London, United Kingdom
Muslim in faith, British by vitue of being a citizen of britain. hardly incompatible
Yaser, Bratfud, West Riding, UK, United States
Iam an Indian born,wrkng in Saudi Arabia .Shortly to be in UK.
I believe that,'All Humans are the son of Adam',and all religions our brethren religions.
Though Iam Indian born, I consider'the world as my homeland'.Truly loves to be known as a cosmopolitan than to be known as a 'pakistani' or 'Hindustani'.Afterall God created this world for us the
'mankind' to co-exist peacefully.
The time has emerged for us to realise that there is no meaning in nationality and ethnicity.
Afsal Alif, J'Bail, Saudi Arabia
I am Muslim first, then Pakistani, then brown, then American, I take what I have INHERITED proudly. I love America, and respect all religions, there is freedom here, although I think there are more interesting places to live on Earth.
Bilal, Washington DC, United States
A News blackout as regards Neil Lemington - I think not.- Shame on you Muslim News!
Two mins on the internet shows this was covered by Sky News, the BBC, The Times, The Telegraph and most major newspapers. This is a dangerous man who has earned whatever sentence he gets. But that doesn't mean your frustration with the Status Quo should lead you to unfair accusations. I don't expect you to publish this for one second but you should respect your readership because usually we respect you.
gunhilde, york, United Kingdom
I was born in the Middle-east. I came into britain when I was 7- my parents both of them contributed to the public sector. Ethnically I am bengali. In terms of my religion I am Muslim and I am proud of it- it influences every aspect of my life. But make no mistake of this- when it comes down to country loyalty it lies undividedly to Great Britain. I love my country, because a country defines an individual. If there was any army I would join it is the BRITISH ARMY
Nabs Choudhury, Essex, United Kingdom
I was born in England and proud off it ,my religion is mine to know and I do not try to convert anyone into my religion.throughout my 68 years I have never know such clashes of faiths that excist as they do now.People are welcome to come to this country but to keep apart from our way of life is wrong,comunities that live apart will never live in harmony together.I lived with my family in Malaya for three year and it was a happy part of my life.Those who hate should look in the mirror first.
john, middlesbrough, United Kingdom
I see myself as a British Muslim. I am British but also a Muslim. My values and my morality is based on my Islamic upbringing. My religion is very important to me and defines most things i do in life, from the clothes i wear, to the food i eat, to the type of job i do. I would not knowingly do anything which goes against my Islamic faith. However being british is also very important to me. Many aspects of britain i love, from the multicultural society, the coast, the manners, footie, freedom.
Nazir Wazir, Leamington, United Kingdom
you know, at the end of the day, when we remove the labels we slap on each other....what are we? we are, in fact, all the same...and with that..i wish, to all, peace.
ed, london, United Kingdom
Putting the identity tag in front of someone's name i.e. British-Muslim or whatsoever is not all for someone to be fair enough in terms of responsibilities. What I understand, a responsible Muslim should prioritise the Dawah in order to let others know his/her identity. A person who has not been in the UK for four generations preceding him/her is a migrant. And the first and foremost responsibility lies on him is to pass the Message onto the English people. This is how someone can be a Muslim.
Reaz Ahmed, London, United Kingdom
I'm not a religious person and cannot comprehend the hatred or intolerance that can be generated between some followers of Christianity or Islam. UK a christian country?? It used to be Pagan before Christ came along. There is absolutely no reason why every religion cannot co-exist happily. It only becomes problematic when politics and personal prejudice are hidden under the rallying call of religion and thus that religion is exploited for personal gain. This must surely be offensive to God.
Phil, Caerphilly, United Kingdom
I am a Christian, this is supposely a Christian country. If I were in a Muslim country I would have to abide by your rules and traditions. Why do muslim want to impose there laws and traditions to a Christian Country. Why should we take Christmas out of our Nativity plays. We do not live in a Muslim country!!! I would suggest if you are not happy with living in Britain then find a Muslim country were you can practice your faith without racism and contempt.
Pat, London, United Kingdom
There were alot of Islamic events about 5 years ago and last for about 5 years.. it was always in the papers and on the news.. it seems to have calmed down abit now.. thank God.. I`m British and was born in England and a Christian.. there was a bubbling up of British-born Muslims trying to express themselves and their furvurent faith.. they just wanted to say who they were it seems.. that has mostly died down now.. except for the odd event towards British returning soldiers..
Chris, Coventry, United Kingdom
Why Can't Muslims just accept that this is not a Muslim country, live peacefully or go somewhere in the Muslim world where your warped ideas are law, give us the Respect we give you
Big Rab, Glasgow, United Kingdom
As Salaam Alaikum,
'What do 'THEY!' think 'THEY!' are. We, the Muslim Community will be on this earth, for as long as Allah, (SWA), wants us to continue to succeed. It'S HIS EARTH! HE, creted everything, including ourselfs. NO IFS ANDS OR BUTS!
Fatima Ahmid, Raleigh, NC, United States
As salaamu alikum, religions cross borders; imaginary lines drawn by men to separate and classify themselves as belonging this or that nationality, should not be drawn upon the map of our belief. I am a Muslim. I will be a Muslim no matter where I live. I am proud to have been born in England, and openly say so, even though I live in the U.S. The mere discussion of religion versus nationality is wrong, they are unrelated. Be a good Muslim, be an example, counteract the extremeism! Allah hu Akbar
Robert, Miami, United States
As salaamu alikum, being a muslim has to come first and then our nationality.we shuouldn't forget where we come from, even we were born in this country. As muslims we can contribute to our community. so i would say we r muslims when we attend hujj this national identy doesnt arise.
there are british hindu's, jewish, and other faiths yet we find ourselves in this situation.
Ahmed, london, United Kingdom
Iftikhar Ahmad, London - Muslims in this country have a far better way of life here than christians living in Islamic countries! Do you remember the white headmistress forced out of her school by muslims or the post office manager sacked because muslims complained that he wouldn't serve customers unless the spoke english! Open your blinkered eyes!
Nathan
Nathan, London, United Kingdom
Why in your news today does it say "12 Muslims arrested"? Had the case arisen, would you have said " 12 Catholics or 12 Church of England's arrested"?
Mike, Colchester, United Kingdom
i have lived in the uk for many years now.i live in a very mixed area and find that on the whole i am very much accepted for who i am and my religion.a few people feel that their legs are split between two countries.why? if you can not adjust then go back to your home and be happy.as for sport so long as no one is hurt enjoy the fixture why look for problems that are not there
nadia, United Kingdom
Iftikhar Ahmad - The rest of society has seen broadcasts of racist, misogynistic rants from speakers in your mosques. Your fellow believers parade in our streets with placards demanding the beheading of non muslims. We've had the London bombings, the attacks on Glasgow airport and recordings of would be bombers who feel that death is the appropriate punishment for enjoying yourself on a dance floor.You have EARNED the dislike and distrust of the rest Britain. Would YOU like YOU
if you were us?
gunhilde, york, United Kingdom
Muslim community has been the victim of paki-bashing for the last 60 years by the British society in every walk of life. Now it is a victim of terrorism by the British Establishment. Thousands of Muslim youths are being searched in streets and hundreds of them are behind the bar with out any trial. Muslim schools are being percieved as training ground for terrorists. All Muslims are terrorists in the eyes of the media. Muslim children suffer from racism and bullying in state and church schools.
Iftikhar Ahmad, London, United Kingdom
As a 16 year old Black-British Muslim, I honestly don't know what to define myself as; I'm still working that out. To an extent I think that we as Muslims should adapt our way of life to Britain's - I mean not allowing people to perform nativity plays or say Christian prayers etc in schools is, frankly, a load of crap. But on the other hand we shouldn't be expected to either change our lifestyle or "go back to our country". It sounds overly idealistic, but in the end, does it really matter?
Razan, Birmingham, United Kingdom
Anjem Choudary is obviously a coward. after seeing his comments on GMTV it is clear that he is the sort of coward who puts all of we Muslims in danger whilst he cowers behind the laws of this country that has given us shelter. let it be known that not all of we Muslims are bigots and racists, i and many of my friends are thankful for the work of the brave British soldiers.
adnan, sheffield, United Kingdom
786: British soldiers can be Muslims too and have died fighting in Afganistan and in Iraq. I assume you live here, therefore "your Government" is our Government. War, just like murder does not distinguish between race, colour, creed, age or sex. The Taleban has murdered and continues to murder all in the name of Islam. Do you understand that? Obviously not, hence your ridiculously futile remarks. I pity you.
Rubina, London, United Kingdom
786 - There were no Western soldiers in Afghanistan before the Taliban government conspired in the attack on the twin towers. What did they expect? Meanwhile just how many innocent Afghans - from girls who dare to aspire to education to any Muslim who dares to disagree with their interpretation of Islam have these
people killed in Muslim on Muslim violence? Your hypocrisy is epic.
As for us invading Muslim countries enough of you have invaded ours. It seems only fair to return the compliment
gunhilde, york, United Kingdom
As far as British solidiers go i have no sympathy for them they dig they're own graves by interferring in other countries; the taliban will one day be free from your grave deeds; where are the extremists in afghanistan only women and kids what so they're bombers as well now are they?! stop for a second and think about what your "british government" is doing - exploiting other countries and murdering thier own blood, they should have shame?
786, High Wycombe, United Kingdom
How come your fathers and mothers come over here for a better protected life away from the tyrany of their governments and now you the sons and daugthers of the islam world are trying to undo what they gave you for freedom and the choice of having an education where under the taliban you wouldnt have that think before you act on protesting againist the army that protects that freedom. Because you might find yourself back in the land that doesnt want you to have such freedoms.
selene jones, london, United Kingdom
You scum Muslims allowed to shout your filthy Muslim tirade at our soldiers only because the police hands are tied by government rules. You are to a man cowardly retards who will be eradicated come the revolution.
johnny, leeds, United Kingdom
I am getting sick and tired of you arabs showing dead and injured kids.If you left Israel alone, none of this would happen.You have chosen to elect a militant organisation who is so cowardly that they provoke a fight with Israel and then hide behind women and kids, it is no wonder your civilians are getting hurt.Your lot start the fight and send bombs and suicide bombers into Israel, but we never see the results of your cowardly actions, no dead and injured Jews.Time for honest media.
essexkid, london, United Kingdom
I dont really understand the argument about finding ones identitiy unless one is looking from a refugee type viewpoint.
I am English. If I were to live in a muslim country I would have to obide be it's rules, traditions and customs.
Why is it that you have to ghetto yourselves? I experienced it living in london. I just wish people were just people.
Surely if one didnt want to be British or english then you wouldnt be here - no?
I think this is a point that gets to a lot of non mulim people
david, huddersfield, United Kingdom
I am a muslim bangladeshi british from east london. I think we should all be able to live together in harmony and peace. People should respect each other's religions and faiths because Allah gave us free will which means that we can choose whether to be a muslim or not.
masruba aktar, london, United Kingdom
To believe we can all live together in unity,
one big melting pot of different cultures and
religions means believing in utopia. Quite
frankly, it only exists in dreams.
I'm mixed race, but I don't define myself by
the blood the runs through my veins, I define
myself through my actions. I chose to get on
with my life and stop using my mixed race as
an excuse to feel oppressed, misjudged, lost.
We have to live together- try and make the
most of it.If you're still not happy then please
just go.
polly, london, United Kingdom
i am an US christin, i have no hate twards islam and i dont think anyone should be persicuted. if you all want to unite and return to palistine, go do it, but unite in peace, not with violent intent. oh and berny in london, it things like that that make the world hate us christians. shame on you.
marshall, st. paul, United States
Am a Muslim from the Northern part of Nigeria , presently doing a white collar job in the Southwestern part of the country. I have been to Britain a couple of times, the most recent about two months back, and I must say am quite impressed by the way most muslims in Britain conduct themselves, and from what I have observed, most are trying to project Islam in a positive way.
Ishaq Garba Ammar, Lagos, Nigeria
I love to live in England because of the freedom to live my religion as I like. I was born here and love every inch of England, every tree and every street.
However I know I am just a pawn in a game. When it suits the British government they will turn against the Muslims in this country as they do in other countries.It is the faith in our hearts that the world is frightened of...something they cannot rule over!
Majda, Birmingham, United Kingdom
Muslim British, definately not atheist
NADIA BAYRAKTAR, LONDON, United Kingdom
The war against terror is not a war against Islam, nor a vindictive repression of muslims; it is what it says on the tin, a fight against those who would impose their will on others by means of terror. However misguided the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq may be, it would be a tragic mistake to see in them a deliberate anti-muslim stance on the part of the British government. Britain is one of the most liberal and accepting states on earth, I think we would all do well to remember that.
Alex, Guildford, United Kingdom
To: Menna, Wexford, Ireland
Please remember the word Islam does not convey any relationship to any person, people or place, nor is it the product of any human mind.It is a universal religion and it's goal is to cultivate in man the righteous qualities of Islam, and regardless of race, colour, community or country, a person with these qualities is a Muslim. You don't have to give up being "British" to be a Muslim, be both, and be proud to be both, be a great example to others, Salaam!
Robert, Miami, United States
hi im born british but i changed to muslim i dont under stand way peaple cant leave muslim peaple alone we are all the same
menna, wexford, Ireland
Can someone tell me why these martyr seeking hamas hide in civillian areas? Just so they can claim a propaganda victory when civillians inevitably get hit? I thought they had a zeal for death and martydom so why hide with civillians? They have been shown for what they are. Just a criminal, fundamentalist organisation.
And, Ipswich, United Kingdom
Bernie in london, you are just as misguided as the other medieval fanatics on here.
And, Ipswich, United Kingdom
All the news is pro arab, yet you cause all the trouble in the middle east,have done since 1948.If you had not attacked Israel you would not be having the trouble you have now.
essexkid, london, United Kingdom
Cant people off all religions just live happily together in britain? Cant we just focus on our similarities rather than our differences?
A,L.D, Leeds, United Kingdom
I think it is time that all Muslims stood together enmasse and went to palestine to help their Muslim brothers and sisters, let me know how many tickets you require and i will forward the money.
Love and Kisses
Peter
Peter, Bradford, United Kingdom
F.shariff ali, London, Tottenham, United Kingdom.
Poor you, go back to Somalia. You are quite right that no Muslim is welcome in this country.
john, leeds, United Kingdom
I am a Practising Roman Catholic and my parents are French and Irish and I was born in Britain, I consider myself British. I have a question for British Born Muslims, for those of you who dont identify yourself as British why is that? and is there anything that can done to change why you dont? This is not meant to offend I am simply interested, where these seems to be a lack of british identification amongst many British born muslims. Thanks
Emily, London, United Kingdom I am a muslim living happily in Britain, My parents are of Pakistani origin and I consider Britain my home and nobody can tell me otherwise. I have many friends who are of different religions, cultures etc. I wear a hijab proudly and have been lucky to have studied, worked and lived here all my life but APPARENTLY i'm still not intergrated enough! Its sad to read all these Hateful e-mails, lifes too short to hate lets all try to work on our similarities and not hate on our differences.
saima ahmed, birmingham, United Kingdom
F Sharif Ali - If I were to offer the opinion in most Muslim countries in the world that I looked forward to the day when the populations of those countries were converted to another religion I could look forward to imprisonment or even death. Which is why we will not be sharing your enthusiasm for a Muslim Britain any day soon. I am sorry you feel lonely but you show
no respect for other peoples religions and choices and in Britain that is just plain rude.
Gunhilde, York, United Kingdom
A lot of us living in the United
Kingdom are British muslims of Pakistani, Indian or Middle Eastern origin, second generation
muslims. I went down a path a few years ago, where I felt under pressure,to revert back to my Pakistani roots and muslim identity. I learned alot about my culture, the way these people think, I worked with these people,
but I have come to understand, by looking at some of our role models in society that they are successful because of far better integration.
Nadim Azam, Wembley, United Kingdom
I am a 29 year old british born and bred man of pakistani origin.
I am a proud muslim who feels that he is living in and foriegn/ alien land called britain that is not willing to help in the least in terms of employment. I understand britain as an multicultural community that however looks down upon me bacuse of my muslim origin. I do love britain because the prophet Mohammad has taught us that were ever your are born thta land is your motherland. I Have driven taxi like a typical desi.
Sheeraz Ali, Northampton, United Kingdom
I am a muslim teenager living in london and to me it isn't exactly the best place for a muslim to be but what choice do i have? im here for my education. Also the way the media protrays islam these days just makes you feel as if your not welcome here.even in college i feel left out, but im not upset compared to other places like my home country Somalia i am happy 2be here.And alhamdulilah im happy and i truly hope that one day every one will be a muslim and exalting the one true name AMEEN.
F.shariff ali, London, Tottenham, United Kingdom
i am a muslim wife, yet I dont need to wear a hijaab to show my deep and true rooted islam, I bow my head to islam, my values and culture go hand in hand, for my son to follow as a true british muslim. I am truly thankful of my parents who have bestowed this upon me.
saiqa aslam, halifax, United Kingdom
As an Englishman I will no longer tolerate muslims or any other faith, telling me about things I do in my country that are offensive to you. You are offensive when a school cannot have a nativity play because of you, English people cannot wear a crucifix at work because of you.
Christianity is the one true faith and we will over come when Jesus comes back.
bernie, london, United Kingdom
Can muslims and Christians live peacefully together in the community.Would this be an example for other religions?
Mr Carey David Price, Koshigaya City, Japan
My mum is a London born Irish girl and my dad is a Morrocan born Algerian.My geneology is a mess but I'm classified as British because I was born in Britain and I have a British Passport. If I had been born in France, I'd be calling myself French and waving a French passport.The fact of the matter is I, nor anyone else, had the choice of where they were born or brought up,so should it really be what defines you as a person?
Huda, London, United Kingdom
My mother was English/Irish and my father Indian. I was born in Britain. The question should not be how one would define themselves, it should be why do others find it necessary to define us?
C.R, London, United Kingdom
John, London: Your God is the same as my God. Yahweh, Lord, God, Allah all mean the same. Jews, Chritians and Muslims are believers of the book. 1500 years ago we devoted a whole chapter in the Quran to Mary and the Virgin birth, yet the Catholic Church only gave importance to Mary in 1965. My point? We believe the same yet different. Regardless of who we pray to, how we pray or in what language our prayers are answered. We have more in common than perhaps you would are wanting to believe.
Rubina, London, United Kingdom
Urslaan - Just remind me again - How many foreign troops were there oppressing the poor old Taliban in Afghanistan when they allowed and indeed encouraged the attack on the multinational inhabitants of the twin towers? Ah yes I remember precisely - NONE. How many training camps, how many bomb attacks on civilians worldwide were
fostered by them? It is absurd to claim that we generated this or our leaving would stop it. This mindset was there before we arrived.
Gunhilde, York, United Kingdom
Urslaan-thanks for your response. But picking at my spelling? As a Dsylexic, I'd say I'm doing better than most on here! (it's capital M for my name please-and where is Teessideel exactly?!) ;o)
Michelle, Burnley, United Kingdom
Urslaan - You could not be more wrong. I demonstrated against the war in Iraq before it started and while in London went to part of the Hutton debate in the House of Commons. I will NEVER forgive Tony Blair for his mendacity and folly. This is when I met Muslims for the first time whose extremist, mysoginistic, fascist ideologies far predated Iraq and who had been allowed to flourish in Britain by
negligent politicians who gave immigrants rights of residence without demanding anything back.
Gunhilde, york, United Kingdom
Gunhilde, my sympathy is for those who are oppressed over nations who choose to oppress - obviously you feel that "my country; right or wrong" is a postive approach... I think it's dumb.
It irks me to see UK soldiers dying in vain - for surely the Taliban will succeed in Afghanistan, no doubt.
The REAL security risk is HMG's idiotic foreign policy - let's kill some women and children and see what their menfolk will do - whoops, more Taliban!
michelle - I am British (capital B please.)
Urslaan Khan, Teessideel , United Kingdom
I have just being reading most of the e-mail. There ia a lot of hatred, confusion, misunderstanding etc. Let us NOT confuse religon, identity and to see if you are faithful to UK or any country you are citizen of. The word citizen means "member of state". You can have your religon and be faitful and true to a country. I cannot understand the attitude and hate some of you have for this country. I have represented England at Internationl level at Sports and am a muslim. Long live the Queen!
Imtiaz Mahmood, Croydon, United Kingdom
Urslaan-you illustrate the reason most Britons (English, Irish, Scottish, Welsh)feel growing resentment towards british-born citizens-Pakistani identity in terms of race, culture etc, but British identity for...? All the trimmings perhaps? If Britons were to refuse to accept you as British because of your race, would you see this as racist? As for bloodied histories, please consider: Arabs started the slave trade, the Ottoman empire was around before the British empire, the caste system etc..
Michelle, Burnley, United Kingdom
Urslaan. Home is where the heart is your heart is not here - fair enough. So what should the rest of us do about a self confessed security risk like you. Fortunately, though there are 1 million citizens of Pakistani origin all of whom you seem to imply share your views, there are 64 million of the rest of us. We can change the law and this loophole needs addressing. Incidently what was the Caliphate if not a shameful, colonial institution - but it was Muslim so I suppose that's alright then.
Gunhilde, york, United Kingdom
Muhammad Sheraz-a little thought from you too, please before commenting-the UK has been in existence many thousands of years, minus the name-the earliest settlers date back some 9,000 years. A brief look at the anti-Rubina comments throughout these threads-mostly from fellow Muslims-suggests integration and adaptation to British culture has conciously not happened-Rubina is integrated, educated, thoughtful and a credit to Islam-unlike yourself.
Michelle, Burnley, United Kingdom
MUHAMMAD SHERAZ - you are the worst example of someone with an agenda who is selective in history - which brainwashers have been giving you your 'education'. You said...
MUSLIMS WERE THE ONES WHO BOUGHT YOU OUT OF DARK AGES '
What makes you think this you ill educated fool? Roman and Greek knowledge was retained in Byzantium or the Eastern Roman Empire which was East Europe, the Middle East and North Africa before the Arabs came and invaded so called 'muslim lands'.
Andrew, Ipswich, United Kingdom
Gunhilde - most likely, Pakistan
As we speak, our government has a revived penchant for occupying other countries in a manner solely befitting its shameful colonial legacy and not its self-acclaimed role as a responsible 21st century state in an interconnected world.
There are "one million British citizens of Pakistani origin" (PM's website) - is war a good idea?
As for dual citizenship, it isn't illegal here or in Pakistan - so in that sense, I have the tacit blessing of both states.
Urslaan, Teesside, United Kingdom
Urslaan - This may work for you but it isn't necessarily good for the rest of Britain. If we were to go to war with Pakistan where would your loyalties lie? It is illegal in some countries to hold dual nationality - it should be illegal here and throughout the rest of the EEC. People should be required to choose. If they retain foreign citizenship then their British nationality should be revoked along with rights of residence. It is in no countries interest to have semi-detached citizens.
[I am still not convinced at these people being, "Moderate".
honestly, are you?
Comments received:
I am a British Muslim revert expat,
:-$ married to a Pakistani Muslim
ex pat, living in Cyprus. I left
the UK because of the spiraling
crime rate, high cost of living and
the rapid decline of morals,
promoted on UK TV, pop-culture and
newspapers, which makes me almost
ashamed to say I am British born.
Those who say it is a Christian
country must be overlooking the
fact that Christianity does not
promote immorality, the likes of
which is shown time and time again
poisoning our children's minds.
Diane Akbar, Lemesos, Cyprus
Greetings to all.
I get the feeling that most of the indigenous folks commntng here r missing a point. Britain is also home for many of us who are still considered as outsiders and our loyalty to God, Queen and Country is 2nd to none. However there are some disillusioned nut cases within our community who capture the headlines now and then while the like of us r never asked how we feel(hmmm). These nut cases are found in every community not just among the Muslims and this is worth noting.
Immy, London, United Kingdom
Modibhai - For a start Gunhilde is a female not a male name. I am glad the Raj is over since I believe it is wrong to settle in a foreign country and not integrate and the people of India were quite right to demand their homeland back. One aspect of racism however is when you expect certain rights for yourself which are not prepared to extend to others. Therefor it is racist to expect your own national integrity and refuse to recognise the same right for anyone else. Ring any bells?
Gunhilde, York, United Kingdom
Muslim News Editor
You very conviniently choose to ingnore useful comments by muslim commentators but selectively allow the pathatic loonys i.e Gunhilde to comment as he pleases. People like you need a remainder that the British Raj is over now so please don't feel to obliged to the white man. This commentator is racist insulting and offens many of the readers but you publish him yet many of my relavent positive comments have been blatently ignore by you. Maybe I should change my name 2 Steve.
Modibhai, Khotali, India
Well Wahida,- So thrilled you feel that being a Muslim is enough to fulfill all your ambitions in life - since your level of English literacy is unlikely to fulfill the requirements of a possible future employer.
Meanwhile, though I see you don't care for the country you were born in please try to understand that those of us who do, feel that if you accept a countries' protection common decency demands you give a certain loyalty back or move to somewhere you can operate with more integrity.
gunhilde, york, United Kingdom
subhanala am a muslim thats it i dont care where i was born or where my parents are from am a muslim
wahida, lonson, United Kingdom
I'm Muslim first, British Somali second. race doesnt bother me as much as religion and nationality. is important for me to understand my religion is the most important aspect of my life, then be proud of my roots as Somali girl who moved to this country as a child. because i moved to this country i have duties and respect that i must adhere to.
Fatima, London, United Kingdom
According to Islamic teaching,When we residie here as British national. we are enjoy the rights as British national. That why we are British Muslim.
Muhammad Azam Maken, London, Botswana
I am a Creature of Allah (The master of the universe). i am a muslim,beliver in one true God (Allah).i dont worry much about the envoronment i live in,whether it be in a jungle,desert,mountin,town,village,with good people around,or bad people,racist or atheist ,because we all belong to Allah and every soul will have to answer for it's action after it's depature from this life.
Ali, London, United Kingdom
It is very sad to read most of the comment by the non-muslims here but who could blame them. Lets be realistic, the astonishing silence by the muslims community leaders to openly, nationally condemning & challenging the likes of Anjem Choudhary and Islam4uk alike has tarnish the moderate decent law abiding muslims in UK.
Its a general perception now that all muslims supported 9/11, 7/7 evil acts because the likes of MCB (labour chums)are 4ever quiet & others elders can't even speak english.
Immy, London, United Kingdom
My parents are from Pakistan, but I am proudly to say that I am British born muslim. When I go and visit Pakistan but its nice go there and see a different life to how we live but when the plane touches down in manchester I say Yes! I am home.
I am pround to be living in Britian today I work, study part time,be a mother to my 4 boys and wife and practise Islam and find more knowledge regarding my religon. I don't thing that if I was living in Pakistan I would get that chance.
NAZIA , KEIGHLEY, United Kingdom
The problems in the middle east are caused by arabs, in particular the terrorist of hamas etc created by the arch terrorist arafat. There has never been a nation or people called palestinians. Israel who was renamed palestine by the romans.That is the ONLY reference to palestine.
Before the jews came back to Israel in the late nineteenth century there were very few people of any nationality living in the area.This is born out by the turks census of the time and noted people of the tim,
bernie, london, United Kingdom
Britain like many other western countries have wripped the identity of muslims around the world by showing only a violent few they fail to cover is real muslim people living normally like any other person in the world.children go to school adults go to work, they come home and enjoy family company not plan the next terrorist movement.They dont want you to see the peaceful side of muslims as they are afraid you will ditch the stereotypical identiy they persistantly tailored your minds to believe.
Sabah, London, United Kingdom
I do not understand the question? Britain is a country and not a faith. I can understand you asking what does one feel about ones country of birth i.e. Pakistan, as a resident of Britain. What are the differences and how do you feel but Islam can only be compared with another faith or cult...... i.e as a Muslim, how do you feel about living in a Christian environment ? That question would make sense but Britain has nothing to do with it. Have you not noticed that Britain is a country?
Shmuel Ben Dovid, Manchester, United Kingdom
I regard myself as Muslim British. I was born and bred in the UK and this country has afforded me many opportunities, for example a good education. I am a qualified english teacher and wear full Hijab. I do not feel there is any conflict between the different dimensions of my identity. I thank Allah that I am both Muslim and British.
umme muhammad, leicester, United Kingdom
Muslims can practice their faith freely in Britain, but Christians can't do the same in a number of muslim countries, like Saudi Arabia, Iran and Afganistan. Christians are also constant victims of persecution from Muslims in coutries like Indonesia, Egypt and Malasia. My question is: why should we Western Christians give you Muslims "rights" and liberties you Muslims deny us in Muslim nations?
Larry Martins Fernandes, Goiania, Brazil
Most immigrant groups have a desire to integrate and do so effectively. However, many Muslims actively segregate themselves, disrespect our laws and values, exploit all that our society has to offer (including the right to free speech) whilst simultaneously working towards turning it into an Islamic state (in which such rights would be denied them!).
Steve Brown, London, United Kingdom
Islam is TOTALLY incompatible with civilised democracy, human rights, equality, freedom and scientific development. It's a back-ward looking system of indoctrination, bigotry and discrimination, from the dark ages of ignorance and tribal wars.
Only an equal and just, secular society, with multicultural integration (rather than segregation) can ensure world peace and prosperity for all.
Steve Brown, London, United Kingdom
Unless Muslims born in the UK can
acknowledge that they subjects of
the(Christian)Monarch, and affirm
that the British Isles should
always be a democratic land(s)
governed by man made(and
unmade)laws,then since they are
unable to share in the values of
national unity, they cannot be
properly described as 'British'. UK
citizenship is only the pre-
requisite.
Jac Maclean, London, United Kingdom
Gunhilde is factually incorrect. Ethnic cleansing is criminal intent, never have the muslim BME community sought to cleanse an area. In fact in the first upwardly mobile move in my childhood were the whites who moved in the 1960's ironically due to the strange smelling food. It was the whites who were incrdibly racist and the community leaders wanted to keep us quiet. We kept quiet when Powell was attacking us, if we had been more vocal and reactive much of the extremism wud not have happened.
Mizan, Luton, United Kingdom
Mizan The irony is that it was the chattering classes who supported mass immigration as they supported secularisation and equal rights for women and homosexuals.
It never entered their smug little minds that these were mutually antagonistic aims.
The white working class culture which I grew up in was ethnically cleansed and communities destroyed by imported cheap labour and a 24 hour drinking and benefit culture designed to neutralise the masses.
This election might be their salvation.
gunhilde, york, United Kingdom
It is ironic that the early muslim immigrants to the USA were staunchley republican. This was because the GOP held fundamental values in keeping with islam, eg marriage between men and women. It is the overall loss in values in the UK that has created chasm within men/women, class, race and religion. From a cohesion viewpoint the absence of common values bewteen the muslims and the white poor is huge. Many issues are irreconcilable and this could be a problem at the election.
Mizan, Luton, United Kingdom
who cares what ethnicity you come from, what defines my identity is my religiuos values.I was born and bread in london so yes ofcours uk is home for me.There is many great about this country it the acceptance of all faiths and belief there is alot of things to be proud of, our fine schools, public services oh yes and our medical health care gets paid for and the local chip shop :.p, i despair the govrmnt the invding of another country to get rid of weapons of mass destruction that wern't there
Rumana, London, United Kingdom
I think it is important that a disctinction between being british and being engligh. Yes, my parents are from Pakistan, Yes they are british, Yes they are Muslims. But are they engligh? NO
Waheed, Wiltshire, United Kingdom
My friends, if you choose to live/reside in the UK then you are ENGLISH! That country deserves your allegiance. But, if you don't agree - then leave! But don't be a parasite and use that countries benefits & thereafter bad-mouth it. I'm sure if you look at the country you (your family) originated from - you will see that the 'grass is not greener on the other side...'
So stop moaning about how 'different' things are in Europe and get on with making a contribution to all of society.
JZNdluli, Ghwar, Saudi Arabia
To Mohammed Rashid Ahmed, when you
and others like you use the term 'non
muslim ruled land' and 'muslim land',
can you please explain what you mean?
Steve, Ipswich, United Kingdom
Mohammed - So you choose to sit like Patience on a monument awaiting the arrival of your Islamic Eldorado in a country where non-Muslims outnumber Muslims 30 to 1 and in a climate which has never been so hostile to Islam.
Why don't you choose an Islamic country you can give yourself to body and soul?
We will happily forgo your contribution to the British economy. It's not as if there aren't thousands desperate to replace you who would happily contribute more wholeheartedly to life in Britain
Gunhilde, York, United Kingdom
Well Mohammed, why wait get yourself to one of the many muslim countries that exist now because waiting for the UK to be ruled by the quran might involve a long wait.
You see the longer muslims live in the West the quicker that they give up their religion.
james, newcastle upon tyne, United Kingdom
Salaam,
Who do I think I am?
I am a Muslim who has been born on Non Muslim Ruled land who has made a contribution like many from abroad and who's parents are from a broad for the better, who holds a British Passprt.
I call homa a place that i awaiten to come into to existence once a Land is ruled according to Qur'an & Sunnah, one that is Officially known through out the world as the Islamic State Insha'Allah
Wasalaam
Mohammed Rashid Ahmed, London, United Kingdom
muslim fullstop
nasser, bolton, United Kingdom
1. 5% of Black US residents are in
Prisons compared to 0.7% of Whites
(2008, BJS). Why?
2. Muslims in the UK are not here
for "refuge" - what cheek! Many are
here because the UK needed highly
skilled personnel and manual
labour.
3. Many Muslims are here because
the UK has set fire to their
homeland. If you set fire to your
neighbour's house they will come to
shelter in yours. Don't
attack/dominate Muslim nations and
Muslims will not bother to come to
the UK - simple!
Munir, Guildford, Ukraine
muslims sufer from an identity crisis, which others do not,not as much. They want to be good muslim,and at the sametime want to enjoy good things of british life,some of them not allowed by their religion. Muslims claimto be more religious than others,and still eleven percent of prisoners in UK jails are muslims.
Peter , Canada
So Many issues out there!
Marriage: those Muslims who ask their spouses to convert before marriage - are they not compelling them - Islam is submission to God, not to a spouse??? Better to marry in Islam but not wrong if with people of Books.
War and Soldiers: just another war on another Muslim country! Get the soldiers back home and stop being Imperialistic! Do we have to wait for another Afghan war inquiry before we realize?!?
Instead invade "Israel" to keep peace - we'll all sign up!!
19, Newport, United Kingdom
Syed- I don't see much difference in your attitude and that of nationalists who say people shouldn't
marry outside their own national identity to preserve the cultural integrity of a nation. The only difference is that our government has pandered to the faith based dynamic and tried to erase the cultural one. This is now in the process of backfiring spectacularly. Instead of a multicultural society what we actually have is an angry, broken, apartheid one.
I fear this is not going to end well.
GUNHILDE, YOPRK, United Kingdom
Mohammed Islam is a way of life a code of existence not just a religon it GUIDES ALL ASPECTS OF YOUR LIFE marriage is half of Islam so it is important we marry within the boundary of what islam allows so we can implement islam RACE is not an issue my own auntie is white but she converted befor she met by uncle muslims marraying muslims of all races is OK but MARRYING OTHER FAITHS destroyes the implementaiton of islam in the home so is not acceptable, you cant implement islam without true faith
syed jamil hussain, abbottabad, Pakistan
What really worries many non-
Muslims is the treatment of other
religions in Islamic countries.The
feeling is that when there is a
majority of Muslims in the
U.K.sharia law will be
introduced.Other religions will be
persecuted and churches and
synogogues destroyed.Many Muslims
will be shocked and deny that this
could ever happen.They should look
at countries like Saudi
Arabia.There is the proof.
JOE, CLITHEROE, United Kingdom
Having served in the British Army for 8 years, and proud to have done so, i can tell your racist magazine that at least 42% of my fellow soldiers are supporters of the BNP. This has come about because of the racist attitude of the Muslim youth of Britain who don't appreciate the country that constantly provides for them. None of these ungrateful fools would last 10 minutes on the streets of Afghanistan because of their pampered upbringing. Support the country that gave refuge to your forefathers
ali baba, bradford, United Kingdom
Our thoughts go out to the British and other nationalities together with Pakistan fighting the vile Taliban. These fanatics must and will be defeated to preserve freedom for man women and child. I know that the majority of British Muslims are backing all soldiers fighting a good cause..
Steve , London , United Kingdom
My heart sinks every time I hear on the
news that a British soldier is killed, I'm a
British Muslim and proud of it, It makes me
angry when some Muslims shout abuse at
the returning British soldiers because I
intend to become one.
I love this country just the way it is, I don't
want to change it, because it's our country
and don't challenge my love for it.
Remember; if all rapists are men does that
mean all men should be accused of rape ?
Salaam
Omur, High Wycombe , United Kingdom
Please open up this site to other topics!
I think that I am a Muslim who is constantly set aside, ignored and place to the rear of the Bus.
At the same time, people of all walks, come to my educated brothers to be treated in Hospitals, Clinics and other facilities. We work in High Tech and Space Industries, people from the Middle East fill jobs that no WASP is smart enough to fill.
Where do you get off in your rude manner, rude treatment and high hatted positions. Get a Life!
Timespanr, Las Vegas, Nevada, United States
I am a white, christian male. I've just reached my 15th year of service in the Royal Marine Commandos. In my team i have white, black, arab,chinese races; christian, muslim, atheist, buddist religions. The common denominator is we respect each other, would die for each other, eat, drink, socialise and fight alongside each other and each familiy accept us when we visit. These are my friends. Religion comes secondly to our respect and friendship. why can't the rest of you look past your religion?
John Bull, London, United Kingdom
I am british-muslim. I don't feel like there is any conflict. British people just need to see a very good picture of islam and muslims before they can become muslims and i hope we all can help with that.
tarek, london, United Kingdom
Muslims living in the UK. This country has a more closer system of governance to Islam than any other country in the world.It assists its citizens and gives them respect and provides people with a general sense of tranuility and mutual respect. There is no surprise that the Prohophet sent a Muslim group to seek refuge in the lands of Christendom.We must prioritise our loyalty with our faith,for faith is the common denominator amongst migrat communities, the one aspect that defines us.
Humayun Khan, London, United Kingdom
Muslim in faith, British by vitue of being a citizen of britain. hardly incompatible
Yaser, Bratfud, West Riding, UK, United States
Iam an Indian born,wrkng in Saudi Arabia .Shortly to be in UK.
I believe that,'All Humans are the son of Adam',and all religions our brethren religions.
Though Iam Indian born, I consider'the world as my homeland'.Truly loves to be known as a cosmopolitan than to be known as a 'pakistani' or 'Hindustani'.Afterall God created this world for us the
'mankind' to co-exist peacefully.
The time has emerged for us to realise that there is no meaning in nationality and ethnicity.
Afsal Alif, J'Bail, Saudi Arabia
I am Muslim first, then Pakistani, then brown, then American, I take what I have INHERITED proudly. I love America, and respect all religions, there is freedom here, although I think there are more interesting places to live on Earth.
Bilal, Washington DC, United States
A News blackout as regards Neil Lemington - I think not.- Shame on you Muslim News!
Two mins on the internet shows this was covered by Sky News, the BBC, The Times, The Telegraph and most major newspapers. This is a dangerous man who has earned whatever sentence he gets. But that doesn't mean your frustration with the Status Quo should lead you to unfair accusations. I don't expect you to publish this for one second but you should respect your readership because usually we respect you.
gunhilde, york, United Kingdom
I was born in the Middle-east. I came into britain when I was 7- my parents both of them contributed to the public sector. Ethnically I am bengali. In terms of my religion I am Muslim and I am proud of it- it influences every aspect of my life. But make no mistake of this- when it comes down to country loyalty it lies undividedly to Great Britain. I love my country, because a country defines an individual. If there was any army I would join it is the BRITISH ARMY
Nabs Choudhury, Essex, United Kingdom
I was born in England and proud off it ,my religion is mine to know and I do not try to convert anyone into my religion.throughout my 68 years I have never know such clashes of faiths that excist as they do now.People are welcome to come to this country but to keep apart from our way of life is wrong,comunities that live apart will never live in harmony together.I lived with my family in Malaya for three year and it was a happy part of my life.Those who hate should look in the mirror first.
john, middlesbrough, United Kingdom
I see myself as a British Muslim. I am British but also a Muslim. My values and my morality is based on my Islamic upbringing. My religion is very important to me and defines most things i do in life, from the clothes i wear, to the food i eat, to the type of job i do. I would not knowingly do anything which goes against my Islamic faith. However being british is also very important to me. Many aspects of britain i love, from the multicultural society, the coast, the manners, footie, freedom.
Nazir Wazir, Leamington, United Kingdom
you know, at the end of the day, when we remove the labels we slap on each other....what are we? we are, in fact, all the same...and with that..i wish, to all, peace.
ed, london, United Kingdom
Putting the identity tag in front of someone's name i.e. British-Muslim or whatsoever is not all for someone to be fair enough in terms of responsibilities. What I understand, a responsible Muslim should prioritise the Dawah in order to let others know his/her identity. A person who has not been in the UK for four generations preceding him/her is a migrant. And the first and foremost responsibility lies on him is to pass the Message onto the English people. This is how someone can be a Muslim.
Reaz Ahmed, London, United Kingdom
I'm not a religious person and cannot comprehend the hatred or intolerance that can be generated between some followers of Christianity or Islam. UK a christian country?? It used to be Pagan before Christ came along. There is absolutely no reason why every religion cannot co-exist happily. It only becomes problematic when politics and personal prejudice are hidden under the rallying call of religion and thus that religion is exploited for personal gain. This must surely be offensive to God.
Phil, Caerphilly, United Kingdom
I am a Christian, this is supposely a Christian country. If I were in a Muslim country I would have to abide by your rules and traditions. Why do muslim want to impose there laws and traditions to a Christian Country. Why should we take Christmas out of our Nativity plays. We do not live in a Muslim country!!! I would suggest if you are not happy with living in Britain then find a Muslim country were you can practice your faith without racism and contempt.
Pat, London, United Kingdom
There were alot of Islamic events about 5 years ago and last for about 5 years.. it was always in the papers and on the news.. it seems to have calmed down abit now.. thank God.. I`m British and was born in England and a Christian.. there was a bubbling up of British-born Muslims trying to express themselves and their furvurent faith.. they just wanted to say who they were it seems.. that has mostly died down now.. except for the odd event towards British returning soldiers..
Chris, Coventry, United Kingdom
Why Can't Muslims just accept that this is not a Muslim country, live peacefully or go somewhere in the Muslim world where your warped ideas are law, give us the Respect we give you
Big Rab, Glasgow, United Kingdom
As Salaam Alaikum,
'What do 'THEY!' think 'THEY!' are. We, the Muslim Community will be on this earth, for as long as Allah, (SWA), wants us to continue to succeed. It'S HIS EARTH! HE, creted everything, including ourselfs. NO IFS ANDS OR BUTS!
Fatima Ahmid, Raleigh, NC, United States
As salaamu alikum, religions cross borders; imaginary lines drawn by men to separate and classify themselves as belonging this or that nationality, should not be drawn upon the map of our belief. I am a Muslim. I will be a Muslim no matter where I live. I am proud to have been born in England, and openly say so, even though I live in the U.S. The mere discussion of religion versus nationality is wrong, they are unrelated. Be a good Muslim, be an example, counteract the extremeism! Allah hu Akbar
Robert, Miami, United States
As salaamu alikum, being a muslim has to come first and then our nationality.we shuouldn't forget where we come from, even we were born in this country. As muslims we can contribute to our community. so i would say we r muslims when we attend hujj this national identy doesnt arise.
there are british hindu's, jewish, and other faiths yet we find ourselves in this situation.
Ahmed, london, United Kingdom
Iftikhar Ahmad, London - Muslims in this country have a far better way of life here than christians living in Islamic countries! Do you remember the white headmistress forced out of her school by muslims or the post office manager sacked because muslims complained that he wouldn't serve customers unless the spoke english! Open your blinkered eyes!
Nathan
Nathan, London, United Kingdom
Why in your news today does it say "12 Muslims arrested"? Had the case arisen, would you have said " 12 Catholics or 12 Church of England's arrested"?
Mike, Colchester, United Kingdom
i have lived in the uk for many years now.i live in a very mixed area and find that on the whole i am very much accepted for who i am and my religion.a few people feel that their legs are split between two countries.why? if you can not adjust then go back to your home and be happy.as for sport so long as no one is hurt enjoy the fixture why look for problems that are not there
nadia, United Kingdom
Iftikhar Ahmad - The rest of society has seen broadcasts of racist, misogynistic rants from speakers in your mosques. Your fellow believers parade in our streets with placards demanding the beheading of non muslims. We've had the London bombings, the attacks on Glasgow airport and recordings of would be bombers who feel that death is the appropriate punishment for enjoying yourself on a dance floor.You have EARNED the dislike and distrust of the rest Britain. Would YOU like YOU
if you were us?
gunhilde, york, United Kingdom
Muslim community has been the victim of paki-bashing for the last 60 years by the British society in every walk of life. Now it is a victim of terrorism by the British Establishment. Thousands of Muslim youths are being searched in streets and hundreds of them are behind the bar with out any trial. Muslim schools are being percieved as training ground for terrorists. All Muslims are terrorists in the eyes of the media. Muslim children suffer from racism and bullying in state and church schools.
Iftikhar Ahmad, London, United Kingdom
As a 16 year old Black-British Muslim, I honestly don't know what to define myself as; I'm still working that out. To an extent I think that we as Muslims should adapt our way of life to Britain's - I mean not allowing people to perform nativity plays or say Christian prayers etc in schools is, frankly, a load of crap. But on the other hand we shouldn't be expected to either change our lifestyle or "go back to our country". It sounds overly idealistic, but in the end, does it really matter?
Razan, Birmingham, United Kingdom
Anjem Choudary is obviously a coward. after seeing his comments on GMTV it is clear that he is the sort of coward who puts all of we Muslims in danger whilst he cowers behind the laws of this country that has given us shelter. let it be known that not all of we Muslims are bigots and racists, i and many of my friends are thankful for the work of the brave British soldiers.
adnan, sheffield, United Kingdom
786: British soldiers can be Muslims too and have died fighting in Afganistan and in Iraq. I assume you live here, therefore "your Government" is our Government. War, just like murder does not distinguish between race, colour, creed, age or sex. The Taleban has murdered and continues to murder all in the name of Islam. Do you understand that? Obviously not, hence your ridiculously futile remarks. I pity you.
Rubina, London, United Kingdom
786 - There were no Western soldiers in Afghanistan before the Taliban government conspired in the attack on the twin towers. What did they expect? Meanwhile just how many innocent Afghans - from girls who dare to aspire to education to any Muslim who dares to disagree with their interpretation of Islam have these
people killed in Muslim on Muslim violence? Your hypocrisy is epic.
As for us invading Muslim countries enough of you have invaded ours. It seems only fair to return the compliment
gunhilde, york, United Kingdom
As far as British solidiers go i have no sympathy for them they dig they're own graves by interferring in other countries; the taliban will one day be free from your grave deeds; where are the extremists in afghanistan only women and kids what so they're bombers as well now are they?! stop for a second and think about what your "british government" is doing - exploiting other countries and murdering thier own blood, they should have shame?
786, High Wycombe, United Kingdom
How come your fathers and mothers come over here for a better protected life away from the tyrany of their governments and now you the sons and daugthers of the islam world are trying to undo what they gave you for freedom and the choice of having an education where under the taliban you wouldnt have that think before you act on protesting againist the army that protects that freedom. Because you might find yourself back in the land that doesnt want you to have such freedoms.
selene jones, london, United Kingdom
You scum Muslims allowed to shout your filthy Muslim tirade at our soldiers only because the police hands are tied by government rules. You are to a man cowardly retards who will be eradicated come the revolution.
johnny, leeds, United Kingdom
I am getting sick and tired of you arabs showing dead and injured kids.If you left Israel alone, none of this would happen.You have chosen to elect a militant organisation who is so cowardly that they provoke a fight with Israel and then hide behind women and kids, it is no wonder your civilians are getting hurt.Your lot start the fight and send bombs and suicide bombers into Israel, but we never see the results of your cowardly actions, no dead and injured Jews.Time for honest media.
essexkid, london, United Kingdom
I dont really understand the argument about finding ones identitiy unless one is looking from a refugee type viewpoint.
I am English. If I were to live in a muslim country I would have to obide be it's rules, traditions and customs.
Why is it that you have to ghetto yourselves? I experienced it living in london. I just wish people were just people.
Surely if one didnt want to be British or english then you wouldnt be here - no?
I think this is a point that gets to a lot of non mulim people
david, huddersfield, United Kingdom
I am a muslim bangladeshi british from east london. I think we should all be able to live together in harmony and peace. People should respect each other's religions and faiths because Allah gave us free will which means that we can choose whether to be a muslim or not.
masruba aktar, london, United Kingdom
To believe we can all live together in unity,
one big melting pot of different cultures and
religions means believing in utopia. Quite
frankly, it only exists in dreams.
I'm mixed race, but I don't define myself by
the blood the runs through my veins, I define
myself through my actions. I chose to get on
with my life and stop using my mixed race as
an excuse to feel oppressed, misjudged, lost.
We have to live together- try and make the
most of it.If you're still not happy then please
just go.
polly, london, United Kingdom
i am an US christin, i have no hate twards islam and i dont think anyone should be persicuted. if you all want to unite and return to palistine, go do it, but unite in peace, not with violent intent. oh and berny in london, it things like that that make the world hate us christians. shame on you.
marshall, st. paul, United States
Am a Muslim from the Northern part of Nigeria , presently doing a white collar job in the Southwestern part of the country. I have been to Britain a couple of times, the most recent about two months back, and I must say am quite impressed by the way most muslims in Britain conduct themselves, and from what I have observed, most are trying to project Islam in a positive way.
Ishaq Garba Ammar, Lagos, Nigeria
I love to live in England because of the freedom to live my religion as I like. I was born here and love every inch of England, every tree and every street.
However I know I am just a pawn in a game. When it suits the British government they will turn against the Muslims in this country as they do in other countries.It is the faith in our hearts that the world is frightened of...something they cannot rule over!
Majda, Birmingham, United Kingdom
Muslim British, definately not atheist
NADIA BAYRAKTAR, LONDON, United Kingdom
The war against terror is not a war against Islam, nor a vindictive repression of muslims; it is what it says on the tin, a fight against those who would impose their will on others by means of terror. However misguided the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq may be, it would be a tragic mistake to see in them a deliberate anti-muslim stance on the part of the British government. Britain is one of the most liberal and accepting states on earth, I think we would all do well to remember that.
Alex, Guildford, United Kingdom
To: Menna, Wexford, Ireland
Please remember the word Islam does not convey any relationship to any person, people or place, nor is it the product of any human mind.It is a universal religion and it's goal is to cultivate in man the righteous qualities of Islam, and regardless of race, colour, community or country, a person with these qualities is a Muslim. You don't have to give up being "British" to be a Muslim, be both, and be proud to be both, be a great example to others, Salaam!
Robert, Miami, United States
hi im born british but i changed to muslim i dont under stand way peaple cant leave muslim peaple alone we are all the same
menna, wexford, Ireland
Can someone tell me why these martyr seeking hamas hide in civillian areas? Just so they can claim a propaganda victory when civillians inevitably get hit? I thought they had a zeal for death and martydom so why hide with civillians? They have been shown for what they are. Just a criminal, fundamentalist organisation.
And, Ipswich, United Kingdom
Bernie in london, you are just as misguided as the other medieval fanatics on here.
And, Ipswich, United Kingdom
All the news is pro arab, yet you cause all the trouble in the middle east,have done since 1948.If you had not attacked Israel you would not be having the trouble you have now.
essexkid, london, United Kingdom
Cant people off all religions just live happily together in britain? Cant we just focus on our similarities rather than our differences?
A,L.D, Leeds, United Kingdom
I think it is time that all Muslims stood together enmasse and went to palestine to help their Muslim brothers and sisters, let me know how many tickets you require and i will forward the money.
Love and Kisses
Peter
Peter, Bradford, United Kingdom
F.shariff ali, London, Tottenham, United Kingdom.
Poor you, go back to Somalia. You are quite right that no Muslim is welcome in this country.
john, leeds, United Kingdom
I am a Practising Roman Catholic and my parents are French and Irish and I was born in Britain, I consider myself British. I have a question for British Born Muslims, for those of you who dont identify yourself as British why is that? and is there anything that can done to change why you dont? This is not meant to offend I am simply interested, where these seems to be a lack of british identification amongst many British born muslims. Thanks
Emily, London, United Kingdom I am a muslim living happily in Britain, My parents are of Pakistani origin and I consider Britain my home and nobody can tell me otherwise. I have many friends who are of different religions, cultures etc. I wear a hijab proudly and have been lucky to have studied, worked and lived here all my life but APPARENTLY i'm still not intergrated enough! Its sad to read all these Hateful e-mails, lifes too short to hate lets all try to work on our similarities and not hate on our differences.
saima ahmed, birmingham, United Kingdom
F Sharif Ali - If I were to offer the opinion in most Muslim countries in the world that I looked forward to the day when the populations of those countries were converted to another religion I could look forward to imprisonment or even death. Which is why we will not be sharing your enthusiasm for a Muslim Britain any day soon. I am sorry you feel lonely but you show
no respect for other peoples religions and choices and in Britain that is just plain rude.
Gunhilde, York, United Kingdom
A lot of us living in the United
Kingdom are British muslims of Pakistani, Indian or Middle Eastern origin, second generation
muslims. I went down a path a few years ago, where I felt under pressure,to revert back to my Pakistani roots and muslim identity. I learned alot about my culture, the way these people think, I worked with these people,
but I have come to understand, by looking at some of our role models in society that they are successful because of far better integration.
Nadim Azam, Wembley, United Kingdom
I am a 29 year old british born and bred man of pakistani origin.
I am a proud muslim who feels that he is living in and foriegn/ alien land called britain that is not willing to help in the least in terms of employment. I understand britain as an multicultural community that however looks down upon me bacuse of my muslim origin. I do love britain because the prophet Mohammad has taught us that were ever your are born thta land is your motherland. I Have driven taxi like a typical desi.
Sheeraz Ali, Northampton, United Kingdom
I am a muslim teenager living in london and to me it isn't exactly the best place for a muslim to be but what choice do i have? im here for my education. Also the way the media protrays islam these days just makes you feel as if your not welcome here.even in college i feel left out, but im not upset compared to other places like my home country Somalia i am happy 2be here.And alhamdulilah im happy and i truly hope that one day every one will be a muslim and exalting the one true name AMEEN.
F.shariff ali, London, Tottenham, United Kingdom
i am a muslim wife, yet I dont need to wear a hijaab to show my deep and true rooted islam, I bow my head to islam, my values and culture go hand in hand, for my son to follow as a true british muslim. I am truly thankful of my parents who have bestowed this upon me.
saiqa aslam, halifax, United Kingdom
As an Englishman I will no longer tolerate muslims or any other faith, telling me about things I do in my country that are offensive to you. You are offensive when a school cannot have a nativity play because of you, English people cannot wear a crucifix at work because of you.
Christianity is the one true faith and we will over come when Jesus comes back.
bernie, london, United Kingdom
Can muslims and Christians live peacefully together in the community.Would this be an example for other religions?
Mr Carey David Price, Koshigaya City, Japan
My mum is a London born Irish girl and my dad is a Morrocan born Algerian.My geneology is a mess but I'm classified as British because I was born in Britain and I have a British Passport. If I had been born in France, I'd be calling myself French and waving a French passport.The fact of the matter is I, nor anyone else, had the choice of where they were born or brought up,so should it really be what defines you as a person?
Huda, London, United Kingdom
My mother was English/Irish and my father Indian. I was born in Britain. The question should not be how one would define themselves, it should be why do others find it necessary to define us?
C.R, London, United Kingdom
John, London: Your God is the same as my God. Yahweh, Lord, God, Allah all mean the same. Jews, Chritians and Muslims are believers of the book. 1500 years ago we devoted a whole chapter in the Quran to Mary and the Virgin birth, yet the Catholic Church only gave importance to Mary in 1965. My point? We believe the same yet different. Regardless of who we pray to, how we pray or in what language our prayers are answered. We have more in common than perhaps you would are wanting to believe.
Rubina, London, United Kingdom
Urslaan - Just remind me again - How many foreign troops were there oppressing the poor old Taliban in Afghanistan when they allowed and indeed encouraged the attack on the multinational inhabitants of the twin towers? Ah yes I remember precisely - NONE. How many training camps, how many bomb attacks on civilians worldwide were
fostered by them? It is absurd to claim that we generated this or our leaving would stop it. This mindset was there before we arrived.
Gunhilde, York, United Kingdom
Urslaan-thanks for your response. But picking at my spelling? As a Dsylexic, I'd say I'm doing better than most on here! (it's capital M for my name please-and where is Teessideel exactly?!) ;o)
Michelle, Burnley, United Kingdom
Urslaan - You could not be more wrong. I demonstrated against the war in Iraq before it started and while in London went to part of the Hutton debate in the House of Commons. I will NEVER forgive Tony Blair for his mendacity and folly. This is when I met Muslims for the first time whose extremist, mysoginistic, fascist ideologies far predated Iraq and who had been allowed to flourish in Britain by
negligent politicians who gave immigrants rights of residence without demanding anything back.
Gunhilde, york, United Kingdom
Gunhilde, my sympathy is for those who are oppressed over nations who choose to oppress - obviously you feel that "my country; right or wrong" is a postive approach... I think it's dumb.
It irks me to see UK soldiers dying in vain - for surely the Taliban will succeed in Afghanistan, no doubt.
The REAL security risk is HMG's idiotic foreign policy - let's kill some women and children and see what their menfolk will do - whoops, more Taliban!
michelle - I am British (capital B please.)
Urslaan Khan, Teessideel , United Kingdom
I have just being reading most of the e-mail. There ia a lot of hatred, confusion, misunderstanding etc. Let us NOT confuse religon, identity and to see if you are faithful to UK or any country you are citizen of. The word citizen means "member of state". You can have your religon and be faitful and true to a country. I cannot understand the attitude and hate some of you have for this country. I have represented England at Internationl level at Sports and am a muslim. Long live the Queen!
Imtiaz Mahmood, Croydon, United Kingdom
Urslaan-you illustrate the reason most Britons (English, Irish, Scottish, Welsh)feel growing resentment towards british-born citizens-Pakistani identity in terms of race, culture etc, but British identity for...? All the trimmings perhaps? If Britons were to refuse to accept you as British because of your race, would you see this as racist? As for bloodied histories, please consider: Arabs started the slave trade, the Ottoman empire was around before the British empire, the caste system etc..
Michelle, Burnley, United Kingdom
Urslaan. Home is where the heart is your heart is not here - fair enough. So what should the rest of us do about a self confessed security risk like you. Fortunately, though there are 1 million citizens of Pakistani origin all of whom you seem to imply share your views, there are 64 million of the rest of us. We can change the law and this loophole needs addressing. Incidently what was the Caliphate if not a shameful, colonial institution - but it was Muslim so I suppose that's alright then.
Gunhilde, york, United Kingdom
Muhammad Sheraz-a little thought from you too, please before commenting-the UK has been in existence many thousands of years, minus the name-the earliest settlers date back some 9,000 years. A brief look at the anti-Rubina comments throughout these threads-mostly from fellow Muslims-suggests integration and adaptation to British culture has conciously not happened-Rubina is integrated, educated, thoughtful and a credit to Islam-unlike yourself.
Michelle, Burnley, United Kingdom
MUHAMMAD SHERAZ - you are the worst example of someone with an agenda who is selective in history - which brainwashers have been giving you your 'education'. You said...
MUSLIMS WERE THE ONES WHO BOUGHT YOU OUT OF DARK AGES '
What makes you think this you ill educated fool? Roman and Greek knowledge was retained in Byzantium or the Eastern Roman Empire which was East Europe, the Middle East and North Africa before the Arabs came and invaded so called 'muslim lands'.
Andrew, Ipswich, United Kingdom
Gunhilde - most likely, Pakistan
As we speak, our government has a revived penchant for occupying other countries in a manner solely befitting its shameful colonial legacy and not its self-acclaimed role as a responsible 21st century state in an interconnected world.
There are "one million British citizens of Pakistani origin" (PM's website) - is war a good idea?
As for dual citizenship, it isn't illegal here or in Pakistan - so in that sense, I have the tacit blessing of both states.
Urslaan, Teesside, United Kingdom
Urslaan - This may work for you but it isn't necessarily good for the rest of Britain. If we were to go to war with Pakistan where would your loyalties lie? It is illegal in some countries to hold dual nationality - it should be illegal here and throughout the rest of the EEC. People should be required to choose. If they retain foreign citizenship then their British nationality should be revoked along with rights of residence. It is in no countries interest to have semi-detached citizens.
[I am still not convinced at these people being, "Moderate".
honestly, are you?