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bobdina
05-17-2010, 01:03 PM
On shooting the wounded

John Thompson, National Post Published: Monday, May 17, 2010


In October 2008, Captain Robert Semrau of the Royal Canadian Regiment was commanding a "mentoring team" of four Canadian soldiers operating with a company of Afghan National Army troops engaged in fighting Taliban insurgents in Helmand Province. Taliban insurgents opened fire on this force and were engaged by a supporting U.S. Apache gunship. The Taliban promptly withdrew, leaving one of their gunmen dead and one severely wounded.

The Afghan Army troops did not treat the wounded Talib, who had one leg shredded off and a foot severed, and may have also been wounded in the torso. Instead they apparently kicked and insulted him and then moved on. This created a dilemma for the Canadians.

The textbook on modern ethical warfare would advise immediately halting the Afghan troops; treating the badly wounded prisoner (who was apparently dying in great pain); calling for a medical evacuation; then, and only then, continuing with the mission. But textbook solutions are one thing; reality on the ground is something else.

The Afghan Army troops obviously showed no interest in the well-being of the badly wounded Talib -- the Taliban themselves have shown little respect for any laws of war. The Afghan National Army is poor and short of resources and may not have had a means of evacuating a wounded prisoner in time to possibly save him. Moreover, the sweep for the enemy had to continue.

Captain Semrau had to balance resources, time, the rules, the mission and, as a foreign expert attached to the Afghan Army, his credibility with these rough men fighting a vicious enemy. Evidently, this badly wounded Talib would not have survived long enough to reach effective treatment. So which was the right action: Prolonging the Talib's pain to no purpose, or ending it?

From what we know so far, Captain Semrau's decision was to fire two bullets into the wounded Talib and end his suffering.

Strangely, while the central act of war is homicide and there is no end to histories, commentaries and studies of almost every facet of war, the shelves of material are slender when it comes to issues like this. This is something veterans seldom talk about.

That war is homicide is a point that needs no debate. War revolves around killing people, but in a manner that most of us sanction in one way or another.

We have laws, rules, customs and unwritten practices to outline what forms of homicide are acceptable during warfare, yet there is a substantial grey area between some of the absolutes. It is acceptable for a soldier to kill an enemy who is shooting at him. It is unacceptable to execute unarmed prisoners in a safe area in the rear. The grey areas lie between, shading from light to dark according to circumstances and situations. The customs and unwritten practices of combatants remain an ambiguous and largely unexplored territory, although they go far toward defining what is permissible according to men in battle.

One grey area concerns the killing of badly wounded personnel-- especially those of the enemy



As an infantryman in the Rhineland offensive in February 1945, my uncle was involved in such a dilemma with a German fallshirmjaeger. Another veteran once told me of a night in Holland where a badly wounded enemy soldier was alternatively screaming and wailing for his mother in the deadly ground between two fiercely held positions, until a grenade was tossed into his hole by a Canadian medic. Barry Broadfoot's Six War Years contains an anecdote of a Canadian slitting the throat of a badly wounded soldier in a dark night between the lines in Italy -- without checking which uniform he wore.

There are some accounts of regret from soldiers in many armies who killed their own badly wounded or those of the enemy, and regrets from those who did not. The morality of every incident is disputable because the circumstances are always different, but the choices are always the same absolutes. This aspect of warfare is seldom discussed. It happens and veterans reserve their judgments to themselves; some remain untroubled by their choices, some are haunted by them.

Captain Semrau was charged with second degree murder for killing the wounded Talib and has been in a court martial. These charges never should have been laid.

The only people who can properly judge Captain Semrau are his true peers -- veterans of combat. The only person who can truly condemn or reprieve him is himself.

- John Thompson is president of the Mackenzie Institute. He has studied warfare all of his life, but his own years of military service were entirely peaceful

Read more: http://www.nationalpost.com/todays-paper/story.html?id=3036232&p=2#ixzz0oCuHXtRl

ianstone
05-18-2010, 07:41 AM
I Concur,
the old adage springs to mind.
Walk a mile in a mans shoes before you condemn him.

Reactor-Axe-Man
05-18-2010, 11:06 AM
One of the givens regarding the 'laws' of armed conflict is that both belligerents must adhere to them equally. That is why the Geneva Conventions discuss 'unlawful combatants' - groups like al-Qaeda or the Taliban do not wear a recognizable uniform or symbol to separate them from the civilian population, and they do not treat prisoners or wounded in accordance with the Conventions. What many do not understand is that these failures to adhere to the Conventions mean that they do not qualify for any of the protections of the Conventions, either. NATO forces do not need to take them prisoner at all - they can be shot 'legally' if captured for any reason or no reason at all, and they can be tortured, etc;

The whole point to the Conventions and the 'Laws' of Armed Conflict is reciprocity. In order to mitigate against the carnage and horror of war you treat your enemy as you would want them to treat with you.

The problem is that so many hand-wringing fools on our side do not seem to understand this. Whether this is the result of malice or stupidity is an open question.

bobdina
05-18-2010, 11:08 AM
One of the givens regarding the 'laws' of armed conflict is that both belligerents must adhere to them equally. That is why the Geneva Conventions discuss 'unlawful combatants' - groups like al-Qaeda or the Taliban do not wear a recognizable uniform or symbol to separate them from the civilian population, and they do not treat prisoners or wounded in accordance with the Conventions. What many do not understand is that these failures to adhere to the Conventions mean that they do not qualify for any of the protections of the Conventions, either. NATO forces do not need to take them prisoner at all - they can be shot 'legally' if captured for any reason or no reason at all, and they can be tortured, etc;

The whole point to the Conventions and the 'Laws' of Armed Conflict is reciprocity. In order to mitigate against the carnage and horror of war you treat your enemy as you would want them to treat with you.

The problem is that so many hand-wringing fools on our side do not seem to understand this. Whether this is the result of malice or stupidity is an open question.

Well said.

GTFPDQ
05-18-2010, 02:32 PM
I have no problem with this act, there was no laughing or kicking the poor sod. He was going to die, eventually. I see it as an act of compassion.

Cup_Noodles
05-18-2010, 04:19 PM
Where is this so called "textbook on modern ethical warfare" so I can shove it up the authors ass. War is fucking nasty. Coalition Forces don't fight wars to bake cake, they fight wars to kill the goddamn enemy. Go try and spew this shit to the Taliban and tell me if it works, that is if they don't cut your head off.