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dmaxx3500
05-01-2010, 02:38 PM
the russian's are saying the north koreans used a mini-sub to blow up the oil rig in the gulf,,is this why obama is sending SWAT teams to the rigs?




http://www.snooperreport.com/snooper-report/2010/5/1/so-who-blew-up-the-louisiana-oil-rig-nuke-north-korea.html

Reactor-Axe-Man
05-01-2010, 05:11 PM
I cannot in words adequately express my doubt for this proposition, but here goes:

Torpedo a ROK corvette in waters close to your home base? - yes.

Travel halfway around the world in an ancient piece of shit Russian-surplus Whiskey class boat to sabotage a privately owned oil platform in waters where you have never even dreamed of operating in, at depths far in excess of your capabilities, to accomplish a nebulous and uncertain agenda regarding U.S. domestic policy? - you gotta be fucking kidding me.

I hope to God no one takes this idea seriously.

dmaxx3500
05-01-2010, 05:31 PM
i wonder if this the same reporter that said the u.s. would crumble 10-15 years ago,but i figured you guys would get a kick from it

perocity
05-03-2010, 06:33 PM
Interesting theory I never heard of this "snooper" reporter.I will see if there are any other links to back this story up.

perocity
05-03-2010, 06:41 PM
Found some fringe articles stinks of a cover up.
US Orders Blackout Over North Korean Torpedoing Of Gulf Of Mexico Oil Rig
A grim report circulating in the Kremlin today written by Russia’s Northern Fleet is reporting that the United States has ordered a complete media blackout over North Korea’s torpedoing of the giant Deepwater Horizon oil platform owned by the World’s largest offshore drilling contractor Transocean that was built and financed by South Korea’s Hyundai Heavy Industries Co. Ltd., that has caused great loss of life, untold billions in economic damage to the South Korean economy, and an environmental catastrophe to the United States.

Most important to understand about this latest attack by North Korea against its South Korean enemy is that under the existing “laws of war” it was a permissible action as they remain in a state of war against each other due to South Korea’s refusal to sign the 1953 Armistice ending the Korean War.
Read more here: http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1367.htm

perocity
05-03-2010, 06:45 PM
Checked with my boys at ATS some good info here: http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread566744/pg1

Toki
05-03-2010, 08:12 PM
Sorcha Faal. One letter away from "Fail."

perocity
05-04-2010, 08:13 AM
Sorcha Faal. One letter away from "Fail."
A Google search of Sorcha Faal is nothing but a bull shit fabricating story teller.

bobdina
05-09-2010, 06:07 PM
Bubble of Methane Triggered Rig Blast
May 08, 2010
Associated Press

ON THE GULF OF MEXICO - The deadly blowout of an oil rig in the Gulf of Mexico was triggered by a bubble of methane gas that escaped from the well and shot up the drill column, expanding quickly as it burst through several seals and barriers before exploding, according to interviews with rig workers conducted during BP's internal investigation.

While the cause of the explosion is still under investigation, the sequence of events described in the interviews provides the most detailed account of the April 20 blast that killed 11 workers and touched off the underwater gusher that has poured more than 3 million gallons of crude into the Gulf.

Portions of the interviews, two written and one taped, were described in detail to an Associated Press reporter by Robert Bea, a University of California Berkeley engineering professor who serves on a National Academy of Engineering panel on oil pipeline safety and worked for BP PLC as a risk assessment consultant during the 1990s. He received them from industry friends seeking his expert opinion.

A group of BP executives were on board the Deepwater Horizon rig celebrating the project's safety record, according to the transcripts. Meanwhile, far below, the rig was being converted from an exploration well to a production well.

Based on the interviews, Bea believes that the workers set and then tested a cement seal at the bottom of the well. Then they reduced the pressure in the drill column and attempted to set a second seal below the sea floor. A chemical reaction caused by the setting cement created heat and a gas bubble which destroyed the seal.

Deep beneath the seafloor, methane is in a slushy, crystalline form. Deep sea oil drillers often encounter pockets of methane crystals as they dig into the earth.

As the bubble rose up the drill column from the high-pressure environs of the deep to the less pressurized shallows, it intensified and grew, breaking through various safety barriers, Bea said.

"A small bubble becomes a really big bubble," Bea said. "So the expanding bubble becomes like a cannon shooting the gas into your face."

Up on the rig, the first thing workers noticed was the sea water in the drill column suddenly shooting back at them, rocketing 240 feet in the air, he said. Then, gas surfaced. Then oil.

"What we had learned when I worked as a drill rig laborer was swoosh, boom, run," Bea said. "The swoosh is the gas, boom is the explosion and run is what you better be doing."

The gas flooded into an adjoining room with exposed ignition sources, he said.

"That's where the first explosion happened," said Bea, who worked for Shell Oil in the 1960s during the last big northern Gulf of Mexico oil well blowout. "The mud room was next to the quarters where the party was. Then there was a series of explosions that subsequently ignited the oil that was coming from below."

According to one interview transcript, a gas cloud covered the rig, causing giant engines on the drill floor to run too fast and explode. The engines blew off the rig and set "everything on fire," the account said. Another explosion below blew more equipment overboard.

BP spokesman John Curry would not comment Friday night on whether methane gas or the series of events described in the internal documents caused the accident.

"Clearly, what happened on the Deepwater Horizon was a tragic accident," said Curry, who is based at an oil spill command center in Robert, La. "We anticipate all the facts will come out in a full investigation."

The BP executives were injured but survived, according to one account. Nine rig crew on the rig floor and two engineers died.

"The furniture and walls trapped some and broke some bones but they managed to get in the life boats with assistance from others," said the transcript.

The reports made Bea, the 73-year-old industry veteran, cry.

"It sure as hell is painful," he said. "Tears of frustration and anger."

On Friday, a BP-chartered vessel lowered a 100-ton concrete-and-steel vault onto the ruptured well, an important step in a delicate and unprecedented attempt to stop most of the gushing crude fouling the sea.

"We are essentially taking a four-story building and lowering it 5,000 feet and setting it on the head of a pin," BP spokesman Bill Salvin told The Associated Press.

Underwater robots guided the 40-foot-tall box into place in a slow-moving drama. Now that the contraption is on the seafloor, workers will need at least 12 hours to let it settle and make sure it's stable before the robots can hook up a pipe and hose that will funnel the oil up to a tanker.

"It appears to be going exactly as we hoped," Salvin said on Friday afternoon, shortly after the four-story device hit the seafloor. "Still lots of challenges ahead, but this is very good progress."

By Sunday, the box the size of a house could be capturing up to 85 percent of the oil.

The task became increasingly urgent as toxic oil crept deeper into the bays and marshes of the Mississippi Delta.

A sheen of oil began arriving on land last week, and crews have been laying booms, spraying chemical dispersants and setting fire to the slick to try to keep it from coming ashore. But now the thicker, stickier goo - arrayed in vivid, brick-colored ribbons - is drawing ever closer to Louisiana's coastal communities.

There are still untold risks and unknowns with the containment box: The approach has never been tried at such depths, where the water pressure is enough to crush a submarine, and any wrong move could damage the leaking pipe and make the problem worse. The seafloor is pitch black and the water murky, though lights on the robots illuminate the area where they are working.

If the box works, another one will be dropped onto a second, smaller leak at the bottom of the Gulf.

At the same time, crews are drilling sideways into the well in hopes of plugging it up with mud and concrete, and they are working on other ways to cap it.

Investigators looking into the cause of the explosion have been focusing on the so-called blowout preventer. Federal regulators told The Associated Press Friday that they are going to examine whether these last-resort cutoff valves on offshore oil wells are reliable.

Blowouts are infrequent, because well holes are blocked by piping and pumped-in materials like synthetic mud, cement and even sea water. The pipes are plugged with cement, so fluid and gas can't typically push up inside the pipes.

Instead, a typical blowout surges up a channel around the piping. The narrow space between the well walls and the piping is usually filled with cement, so there is no pathway for a blowout. But if the cement or broken piping leaves enough space, a surge can rise to the surface.

There, at the wellhead of exploratory wells, sits the massive steel contraption known as a blowout preventer. It can snuff a blowout by squeezing rubber seals tightly around the pipes with up to 1 million pounds of force. If the seals fail, the blowout preventer deploys a last line of defense: a set of rams that can slice right through the pipes and cap the blowout.

Deepwater Horizon was also equipped with an automated backup system called a Deadman. It should have activated the blowout preventer even if workers could not.

Based on the interviews with rig workers, none of those safeguards worked

death2mooj
05-13-2010, 01:46 PM
Not believing this one, North Korea might like threatening America but i HIGHLY doubt they are stupid enough to attack us. Their only defender "China" wouldnt even stand behind them because China's economy and ours are too dependant on eachother. Conspiracy theorists are annoying.

Sixx
05-13-2010, 02:03 PM
I call bullshit on the NKorea theory.

But I want to know why Obama called swat.
And why use a SWAT team?

joelee
05-13-2010, 03:31 PM
There is absolutely NO WAY that a N Korean sub was moving around the Gulf unnoticed. The Navy has hydrostatic listening devices all over the ocean around our coasts and other points inthe worlds oceans, that listen to ambient noise constantly. The signals are run through computers and anything out of the ordinary is flagged. I'm not going to go any further into its capabilities because I'm not sure of the security classification, but 20 years ago they could not have snuck in. I doubt that the system has degraded.
And if it was true, how would the Russians know?

Toki
05-13-2010, 03:40 PM
I think just about everyone called bullshit on Russia's statement. Reading a few Russian anti-Russian government sites, they are coming up with a few theories why Russia blamed North Korea.

Sixx
05-13-2010, 03:52 PM
There is absolutely NO WAY that a N Korean sub was moving around the Gulf unnoticed. The Navy has hydrostatic listening devices all over the ocean around our coasts and other points inthe worlds oceans, that listen to ambient noise constantly. The signals are run through computers and anything out of the ordinary is flagged. I'm not going to go any further into its capabilities because I'm not sure of the security classification, but 20 years ago they could not have snuck in. I doubt that the system has degraded.
And if it was true, how would the Russians know?

/agreed and nice avatar :D

Reactor-Axe-Man
05-15-2010, 04:37 PM
I found this discussion about the accident at a forum for oil and gas exploration and production (E&P) workers. It offers insights, explanations, and many questions about the event, possible causes, and options for action. Even if you aren't in the field, if you have a reasonably mechanically oriented mind, the technical stuff is parse-able. One thing that was noted was that the BOP (Blow Out Preventer) was only tested at half-rated pressures (~7500 PSI for a unit rated to 15,000 PSI), and that BP management had overridden one of the contractors (Halliburton) on the procedure for the last cement plug to be installed in the well prior to the accident.

http://www.drillingahead.com/forum/topics/transocean-deepwater-horizon-1

dmaxx3500
05-16-2010, 01:11 AM
I found this discussion about the accident at a forum for oil and gas exploration and production (E&P) workers. It offers insights, explanations, and many questions about the event, possible causes, and options for action. Even if you aren't in the field, if you have a reasonably mechanically oriented mind, the technical stuff is parse-able. One thing that was noted was that the BOP (Blow Out Preventer) was only tested at half-rated pressures (~7500 PSI for a unit rated to 15,000 PSI), and that BP management had overridden one of the contractors (Halliburton) on the procedure for the last cement plug to be installed in the well prior to the accident.

http://www.drillingahead.com/forum/topics/transocean-deepwater-horizon-1


good website ,great info,thanks