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nastyleg
02-02-2010, 04:14 PM
Veterans See Improvement in Iraqi Army

By Army Sgt. Ben Hutto
Special to American Forces Press Service
COMBAT OUTPOST HAMIYAH, Iraq, Jan. 29, 2010 – Soldiers from the Iraqi Army’s 3rd Brigade, 8th Division, listened intently here as they received instruction from U.S. soldiers of the 3rd Infantry Division’s 3rd Heavy Brigade Combat Team.

Waiting for his interpreter to translate his instruction, Army Staff Sgt. Joseph Strauch, an infantryman assigned to “B” Company, 2nd Battalion, 69th Armor Regiment, patiently demonstrated the finer points of clearing a building.

When his Iraqi counterpart asked if his soldiers were doing anything wrong, Strauch quickly reassured him.

“No, you guys aren’t doing anything wrong,” he said. “You’ve just reached the point where we can move on to the next level. Your guys are ready for more advanced training.”

With a satisfied nod from the Iraqi sergeant, the training continued.

Strauch said the situation was a far cry from what he experienced when he was trying to train the Iraqi army for the first time five years ago at Forward Operating Base Justice, where he said they would show up undisciplined and unprepared for training. “There was so much chatter,” he said. “Every time we tried to show them anything, there was a conversation. Rounds were going off left and right. It was crazy.”

Since B Company’s arrival at their patrol base three months ago, Strauch and his fellow sergeants have held several of these training events. What he is seeing from the Iraqi army these days is unrecognizable from his experiences during his prior deployment, he said.

"Back then, a lot of us had a sense that a lot of Iraqi soldiers were just there for the paycheck,” he said. “Now you can see that they have a lot more pride in the uniform they are wearing. In everything they do, it is obvious they want to do it well.”

Army Staff Sgt. Mark Lowe, also with B Company and a Philadelphia, Tenn., native, agreed with Strauch.

“They are very eager to learn better tactics,” he said. “They focus a lot more on safety now. It is encouraging when you see them looking at the cause-and-effect scenarios when they plan scenarios. That wasn’t always there.”

Lowe recounted his first experience with the Iraqi army during Operation Desert Storm in 1991.

“We had heard so much about Iraq’s million-man army,” he said. “To be honest, it weighed on a lot on our minds. At the beginning stages of that war, I think both sides realized, very early on, just how ineffective a lot of their tactics were and how well ours work.”

Lowe said he sees the Iraqi army improving at a rapid pace every time they train.

“Their doctrine has come a long way from Desert Storm,” he said. “You can see it in the way they run checkpoints [and] in the way they conduct raids and plan operations. Everything runs smoother and more efficiently.”

As far as the Iraqi army has come, Strauch and Lowe said, they see ways they could improve.

“First and foremost, every army unit has something they can improve on, but the Iraqi army has a ways to go as far as supplying their soldiers,” Strauch said. “Their flow of supplies doesn’t always trickle down effectively. They have good equipment; it is just a matter of them getting it to the people who need it.”

As the United States winds down its military presence in Iraq, Strauch is concerned that this need will become more apparent.

“We help out as much as we can with providing supplies, but we won’t be here forever,” he said. “Without ammo or equipment, it’s almost impossible for any army to be successful.”

Strauch also said that the training he conducts with his counterparts will need to continue in his unit’s absence.

“The United States Army has been working on and adjusting their tactics for 200 years now,” he said. “The current incarnation of the [Iraqi army] started in 2004. They definitely have some catching up to do.”

Still, Strauch said, he is heartened by the progress the Iraqi army has made.

“To see how far they have come in five short years is encouraging to me,” he said.

(Army Sgt. Ben Hutto serves in the 3rd Infantry Division’s 3rd Heavy Brigade Combat Team public affairs office.)

http://www.defense.gov/news/newsarticle.aspx?id=57785

MickDonalds
02-03-2010, 01:18 AM
I deal with our Iraqi Army counterparts sometimes and they are wayyyyyyyy better than they were 5 years ago. I think 5 years ago, most of the men joining the ranks had previously been in the Baath version of the Iraqi Army, which while being powerful in linear warfare, was still lazy in their execution and simply unmotivated to soldier on a daily basis. With Hussein in power, that's certainly understandable, IMO.

Now it seems like the recruits are getting younger, which means they've had 7 years of our westernized, modernized influence within their society.

I read an article recently that was published by a thinktank/panel of observers from many different countries (most of them being retired top brass and top NCO's/Instructors) and they predicted that in 20 years time, if the Iraqi Army continues to make the progress they've made in their infancy, they'll be able to OBLITERATE all of their regional neighbors (providing we keep selling them our leftovers and training them, of course), with the only rival being Iran, of course. Kinda neat to think, huh? Kinda cool actually. I wanna turn on the news in 20 years and watch Iraq smash the shit out Armenia, just to flex their muscles, lol.

Yono
02-03-2010, 02:18 AM
Really great to read. A better Iraqi army but NOT under Saddam.

nastyleg
02-03-2010, 03:27 AM
I want them to succeed but not to the point that they get too cocky and do what Saddam did to Kuwait.

MickDonalds
02-03-2010, 07:46 AM
I want them to succeed but not to the point that they get too cocky and do what Saddam did to Kuwait.
I doubt that'll happen. Especially if we can keep our influence and develop Iraq into a real ally. That may be a pipe dream, but you never know with the kind of progress we've made over here since the Surge of '07