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scoutsout80
01-29-2010, 03:40 PM
Friday, January 29, 2010


AP


Jan. 29: In this image made from a TV screen and provided by APTN, a Russian-made Sukhoi T-50 prototype fighter jet is seen during a test flight.
MOSCOW — Russia's first stealth fighter intended to match the latest U.S. design made a successful maiden flight Friday, giving a boost to the country's efforts to modernize its rusting Soviet-built arsenals and retain lucrative export market.

The Sukhoi T-50's flight comes nearly two decades after the first prototype of the U.S. F-22 Raptor took to the air, and Russian officials said it will take another five years for the new jet to enter air force service. Still, the flight marked a major step in Russia's efforts to burnish the faded glory of its once-proud aviation industries and strengthen a beleaguered military.


The sleek twin-engined jet closely resembling the Raptor flew for 47-minutes from an airfield at Sukhoi's production plant in the Far Eastern city of Komsomolsk-on-Amur on Friday. Development of the so-called fifth-generation fighter has been veiled in secrecy and no images of it had been released before the maiden flight.

Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin hailed the T-50's flight as a "big step forward," but admitted that "a lot remains to be done in terms of engines and armament."

The NPO Saturn company said in a statement that the jet has new engines, but military analysts suggested that they were a slightly modernized version of the Soviet-era engine powering the Su-27 family of fighters.

"It's a humbug," said independent military analyst Pavel Felgenhauer. "It's just a prototype lacking new engines and a new radar. It takes new materials to build a fifth-generation fighter, and Russia lacks them."

Putin said Friday the first batch of new fighters is set to enter an air force evaluation unit in 2013 and serial production is set to begin in 2015. But analysts were skeptical, pointing at a history of delays in the new fighter program and other Russian weapons projects.

"The schedule will likely be pushed back as usual," said Alexander Konovalov, the head of the Moscow-based Institute of Strategic Assessment, an independent think tank.

Russia's prospective Bulava intercontinental ballistic missile has failed in at least eight of its 12 test launches, dealing a blow to Kremlin's hopes to make the submarine-based weapon a cornerstone of the nation's nuclear arsenal. Officials have blamed the failures on manufacturing flaws resulting from post-Soviet industrial degradation.

Felgenhauer and other observers said the fighter program, which depends on hundreds of subcontractors, has been dogged by similar quality problems.

Russian officials have said the new fighter, like the Raptor, will have a supersonic cruising speed and stealth capabilities. Its pilot, Sergei Bogdan, said in televised remarks that the T-50 was easy and pleasant to fly.

While the new fighter will significantly bolster Russia's air force capability and allow the country to compete more efficiently in the global arms market, some analysts said the country has more pressing needs.

"There is no mission and no adversary for such plane," Konovalov said, adding that the Russian military lacks a modern communications system and satellite navigation. "It would be more expedient to fit modern avionics to older generation jets."

The U.S. administration decided to quit buying the F-22 Raptor plane, the world's most expensive fighter jet at more than $140 million apiece, effectively capping its production at the 186 already ordered.

SMR
01-29-2010, 07:53 PM
http://www.apacheclips.com/boards/showthread.php?3252-Sukhoi-T-50-PAK-FA more here

wardog99s
01-30-2010, 02:32 AM
becuase its a copy of the F-22..... they are good copiers , wounder if the could make an copier un-paper jamable?

Toki
01-30-2010, 01:56 PM
Maybe stealth to '50s radar. Try copying jamming, lasers, and helmet HUDS.

xihualcoatl
01-31-2010, 11:49 PM
are you an expert on avionics and "stealth" of aircraft?

GTFPDQ
02-01-2010, 01:16 AM
are you an expert on avionics and "stealth" of aircraft?

No need for that on your 2nd post. Keep it friendly!!

Toki
02-01-2010, 11:43 AM
are you an expert on avionics and "stealth" of aircraft?

No, but I can tell when an aircraft that claims to be stealth and isn't. The engine intakes and part of the fuselage screams radar signature.

nastyleg
02-01-2010, 02:44 PM
well the part of the formula for building a successful "stealth" plane is not haveing any right angles, heat dispersing vent for the exhaust, RAM (radar absorbing material), and the Russians do have a helmet guidance system for their planes weapons.

xihualcoatl
02-01-2010, 07:22 PM
No, but I can tell when an aircraft that claims to be stealth and isn't. The engine intakes and part of the fuselage screams radar signature.

this airplane is stealth. of course, you can say that, but do you have any thing proving this fact? not trying to start a "flame ".

SMR
02-01-2010, 08:30 PM
this airplane is stealth. of course, you can say that, but do you have any thing proving this fact? not trying to start a "flame ".


Through advances in composites and stealth design the shape of an aircraft is not as important as the materials used in its construction.
This aircraft has a radar cross section. !
The real question is how big of a cross section dose it have?
Dose it show up as a bumble bee on radar or would it be closer to a barn door.
The construction of the exhaust nozzles suggest that this is a testing version of the aircraft and is NOT STEALTH a production version with a few modifications could have a very miniscule radar cross section and be a grate fighter

Reactor-Axe-Man
02-01-2010, 09:42 PM
I'll believe it when I see it. Until then, it's just bait for suckers who think they can buy into the stealthy tactical aircraft market on the cheap.

SMR
02-01-2010, 09:50 PM
I'll believe it when I see it. Until then, it's just bait for suckers who think they can buy into the stealthy tactical aircraft market on the cheap.

+1 stealth isn’t cheep and Russia is!

xihualcoatl
02-02-2010, 12:53 AM
+1 stealth isn’t cheep and Russia is!

cheap or not, all the aircraft that have ever came out of the CCCP and russia have proven to be great quality and long lasting. i dont doubt for a second thath the prototype PAK FA is a great plane, and it will only better as they proceed in developments.

leahcimnosirrom
02-02-2010, 01:44 AM
i second reactor-axe-man on that

Reactor-Axe-Man
02-02-2010, 02:06 AM
Quick, name the last Russian tactical aircraft with a winning combat record?

Did you say the MiG-21? You're a winner!

nastyleg
02-02-2010, 03:34 AM
cheap or not, all the aircraft that have ever came out of the CCCP and russia have proven to be great quality and long lasting. i dont doubt for a second thath the prototype PAK FA is a great plane, and it will only better as they proceed in developments.

You do have a point there...to take this plane too light could prove disasterous to NATO. However the Foxbat capabilities were over stated.