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WretchedDevice
12-15-2009, 01:45 PM
VERY QUIETLY OBAMA'S CITIZENSHIP CASE REACHES THE SUPREME COURT
AP- WASHINGTON D.C. - In a move certain to fuel the debate over Obama's qualifications for the presidency,the group "Americans for Freedom of Information" has Released copies of President Obama's college transcripts from Occidental College . Released today, the transcript school indicates that Obama, under the name Barry Soetoro, received financial aid as a foreign student from Indonesia as an undergraduate at the The transcript was released by Occidental College in compliance with a court order in a suit brought by the group in the Superior Court of California. The transcript shows that Obama (Soetoro) applied for financial aid and was awarded a fellowship for foreign students from the Fulbright Foundation Scholarship program. To qualify, for the scholarship, a student must claim foreign citizenship.
This document would seem to provide the smoking gun that many of Obama's detractors have been seeking. Along with the evidence that he was first born in Kenya and there is no record of him ever applying for US citizenship, this is looking pretty grim. The news has created a firestorm at the White House as the release casts increasing doubt about Obama's legitimacy and qualification to serve as President article titled, "Obama Eligibility Questioned," leading some to speculate that the story may overshadow economic issues on Obama's first official visit to the U.K. In a related matter, under growing pressure from several groups,
Justice Antonin Scalia announced that the Supreme Court agreed on Tuesday to hear arguments concerning Obama's legal eligibility to serve as President in a case brought by Leo Donofrio of New Jersey . This lawsuit claims Obama's dual citizenship disqualified him from serving as president. Donofrio's case is just one of 18 suits brought by citizens demanding proof of Obama's citizenship or qualification to serve as president. Gary Kreep of the United States Justice Foundation has released the results of their investigation of Obama's campaign spending. This study estimates that Obama has spent upwards of $950,000 in campaign funds in the past year with eleven law firms in 12 states for legal resources to block disclosure of any of his personal records. Mr. Kreep indicated that the investigation is still ongoing but that the final report will be provided to the U.S. attorney general, Eric Holder. Mr. Holder has refused to comment on the matter.
LET OTHER FOLKS KNOW THIS NEWS, THE MEDIA WON'T !

Subject: RE: Issue of Passport?

While I've little interest in getting in the middle of the Obama birth issue, Paul Hollrah over at FSM did so yesterday and believes the issue can be resolved by Obama answering one simple question: What passport did he use when he was shuttling between New York , Jakarta , and Karachi ?
So how did a young man who arrived in New York in early June 1981, without the price of a hotel room in his pocket,suddenly come up with the price of a round-the-world trip just a month later?
And once he was on a plane, shuttling between New York , Jakarta , and Karachi , what passport was he offering when he passed through Customs and Immigration?
The American people not only deserve to have answers to these questions, they must have answers. It makes the debate over Obama's citizenship a rather short and simple one.
Q: Did he travel to Pakistan in 1981, at age 20?
A : Yes, by his own admission.
Q: What passport did he travel under?
A: There are only three possibilities.
1) He traveled with a U.S.. Passport,
2) He traveled with a British passport, or
3) He traveled with an Indonesia passport.

Q: Is it possible that Obama traveled with a U.S. Passport in 1981?
A: No.. It is not possible. Pakistan was on the U.S. State Department's "no travel" list in 1981.
Conclusion: When Obama went to Pakistan in 1981 he was traveling either with a British passport or an Indonesian passport.
If he were traveling with a British passport that would provide proof that he was born in Kenya on August 4, 1961, not in Hawaii as he claims. And if he were traveling with an Indonesian passport that would tend to prove that he relinquished whatever previous citizenship he held, British or American, prior to being adopted by his Indonesian step-father in 1967.
Whatever the truth of the matter, the American people need to know how he managed to become a "naturalborn" American citizen between 1981 and 2008..
Given the destructive nature of his plans for America, as illustrated by his speech before Congress and the disastrous spending plan he has presented to Congress,the sooner we learn the truth of all this, the better.
If you Don't care that Your President is not a natural born Citizen and in Violation of the Constitution, then Delete this and go into your cocoon.
If you do care then Forward this!

GTFPDQ
12-15-2009, 07:06 PM
Fucking crap post, it cut and pasted so many times, theres bits missing.

WretchedDevice
12-16-2009, 10:28 AM
Fucking crap post, it cut and pasted so many times, theres bits missing.

Yeah, your a fucking crap post. Do you dispute that the facts listed above are incorrect? Idiot!

GTFPDQ
12-16-2009, 02:43 PM
Interesting, interesting that you call me an idiot. The post that you provided has parts missing from the text. It has been cut/pasted/changed through continuous emailing. It probably bears little resemblance to the original.

This site, as far as I can make out, is a forum for fact, intelligent debate and kinship.

The post that you submitted cannot have its fact verified by anyone on this site. It doesnt allow for any kind of debate. It adds nothing to the site or its members. It is just an inflammatory piece of writing, best suited to conspiracy sites and tin-foil hat wearers.

So Ill leave you with a phrase I used when I was in the Military. Fuck off, then come back so I can tell you to fuck off again.

Damn, I didnt resort to name calling. How bad of me.

WretchedDevice
12-16-2009, 06:05 PM
[QUOTE=GTFPDQ;21057]Interesting, interesting that you call me an idiot. The post that you provided has parts missing from the text. It has been cut/pasted/changed through continuous emailing. It probably bears little resemblance to the original.



^^^^ PROVE IT! Oh, you cant because as soon as you typed "probably" it took out any signifance to anything you just said above and proves that what you were speaking as FACT is merely nothing than your simple opinion. ;}



This site, as far as I can make out, is a forum for fact, intelligent debate and kinship.


"Fucking crap post" Your words exactly. "fact, intelligent debate and kinship" Also your words EXACTLY.lol

I mean are you the resident spin doctor or what. Try your "poor me" act some where else and dont go getting butt hurt for being called names. I mean surely its not the first time you've been refered to in such a manner. ;}





The post that you submitted cannot have its fact verified by anyone on this site. It doesnt allow for any kind of debate. It adds nothing to the site or its members. It is just an inflammatory piece of writing, best suited to conspiracy sites and tin-foil hat wearers.

^^^^Whaah! tissue???

So Ill leave you with a phrase I used when I was in the Military. Fuck off, then come back so I can tell you to fuck off again.

^^LOL sit and spin on that spin doctor. Better luck next time. or probably not! LOL


Also, we AMERICANs really do appreciate your support and minding of our president, didnt cha know.

GTFPDQ
12-16-2009, 07:22 PM
^^^^ PROVE IT! Oh, you cant because as soon as you typed "probably" it took out any signifance to anything you just said above and proves that what you were speaking as FACT is merely nothing than your simple opinion. ;}

DO you agree that there is at least one incomplete section?

transcript school indicates that Obama, under the name Barry Soetoro, received financial aid as a foreign student from Indonesia as an undergraduate at the The transcript was released by Occidental College in compliance with a court order in a suit brought by the group in the Superior Court of California.



This site, as far as I can make out, is a forum for fact, intelligent debate and kinship.


"Fucking crap post" Your words exactly. "fact, intelligent debate and kinship" Also your words EXACTLY.lol

So you disagree that this forum is for "fact, intelligent debate and kinship"?



I mean are you the resident spin doctor or what. Try your "poor me" act some where else and dont go getting butt hurt for being called names. I mean surely its not the first time you've been refered to in such a manner. ;}

Spin doctor, poor me, butt hurt...... What am I spinning? Where was the "poor me"? Ive been called worse, and thankfully its my skin that is thick, not my head.




The post that you submitted cannot have its fact verified by anyone on this site. It doesnt allow for any kind of debate. It adds nothing to the site or its members. It is just an inflammatory piece of writing, best suited to conspiracy sites and tin-foil hat wearers.

^^^^Whaah! tissue???


Nope, dont get it. I think they call this transference.



So Ill leave you with a phrase I used when I was in the Military. Fuck off, then come back so I can tell you to fuck off again.

^^LOL sit and spin on that spin doctor. Better luck next time. or probably not! LOL

Nope dont get that either. Better luck at what?

Also, we AMERICANs really do appreciate your support and minding of our president, didnt cha know.[/QUOTE]


This is a multinational site. Or didnt cha know?


Have a look here, it looks at both sides. Including the fact that the Supreme Court refused to hear the case in 2008.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama_citizenship_conspiracy_theories

GTFPDQ
12-17-2009, 01:12 AM
Yeah, your a fucking crap post. Do you dispute that the facts listed above are incorrect? Idiot!


NO...... think about it!

Turns out the original report was "filed" on April 1st, 2009.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthers/occidental.asp

dmaxx3500
12-17-2009, 01:35 AM
were did you get this new info,what links?,ive heard this before

acf6
12-17-2009, 01:51 AM
Hey wretcheddevice this has happened with just about every president in the last 50yrs. Someone always challenges them but none have ever been proven and either will this one! Also this is a military web site keep it as so, if it has to do with a military cause then post it! This is just more bull to stir the pot and get people going!

nastyleg
12-17-2009, 02:10 AM
Hey wretcheddevice this has happened with just about every president in the last 50yrs. Someone always challenges them but none have ever been proven and either will this one! Also this is a military web site keep it as so, if it has to do with a military cause then post it! This is just more bull to stir the pot and get people going!

I would have to say I agree with you Swany but disagree about this being a pure political stunt....He is CIC and as such any post about him is a post about the military. Plus we have other posts on here that bash politicians that are not military connected.

acf6
12-17-2009, 02:57 AM
I would have to say I agree with you Swany but disagree about this being a pure political stunt....He is CIC and as such any post about him is a post about the military. Plus we have other posts on here that bash politicians that are not military connected.

I know what your saying. Its just me i get sick and tired of hearing about this political bullshit that has nothing to do with whats currently happening in our military he is the CIC so there is some military relevance to it!

WretchedDevice
12-17-2009, 10:34 AM
"Fucking crap post" Your words exactly. "fact, intelligent debate and kinship" Also your words EXACTLY.lol

So you disagree that this forum is for "fact, intelligent debate and kinship"?

NO. I do agree, starting from the beginning of the thread from your first post, that you did not handle the situation as such??

I posted the article, did not state my opinion one way or the other concernning the subject at hand and you assumed I had some sort of agenda by doing so. I merely posted an article that I found to be an interesting circulation of "words". You know what, if you would have started the thread with the input you added towards the middle you would have come off as a bit less crass and intelligable and I would have had alot more respect for what you had to say and would have been more respectful hearing you out and debating the significance of such news/propaganda being supported and circulated by significant amount of people, not only in the US, but all around the world.

Cheers to you GT, respect for your service. See ya around.

GTFPDQ
12-17-2009, 10:49 AM
Im not here for respect or some form of validation. If I see crap, I call it crap. If I see good reports I say good report. Black and white.

WretchedDevice
12-17-2009, 11:56 AM
Im not here for respect or some form of validation. If I see crap, I call it crap. If I see good reports I say good report. Black and white.


So its only a good report if you agree with the contents? Missing content or not, the article still reads and the facts are the facts. Idiot ;} lol

I was really trying to save you some shame for flying off the cuff and appearing to be a complete and total knob with your one liner imbecile limp dick comment, which you are still trying to convince me to be about " fact, intelligent debate and kinship" but you are beyond help. No soup for you!

GTFPDQ
12-17-2009, 12:12 PM
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama...occidental.asp


No need to save me from anything. Have a good read, try to understand it and dont feel too bad for being taken in by the birthers.

WretchedDevice
12-17-2009, 12:34 PM
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama...occidental.asp


No need to save me from anything. Have a good read, try to understand it and dont feel too bad for being taken in by the birthers.

Taken in? lol Your ASSuming you know where I even stood on the article in the first place buddy when in reality you know nothing at all about me.


Nice link by the way...lol Takes you to an empty void like the space between your two ears.

GTFPDQ
12-17-2009, 01:29 PM
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthers/occidental.asp

Just click the link, dont cut and paste.

My apologies if it didnt work.