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Stark
12-13-2009, 07:56 AM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8409358.stm

The CIA has cancelled a contract with US private security firm Blackwater for its operatives to load bombs onto drone aircraft in Pakistan and Afghanistan.

CIA Director Leon Panetta wanted such work to be done by the organisation's own employees only, officials said.

The New York Times revealed the existence of the secret contract with Blackwater, renamed Xe, in August.

On Thursday, the paper also reported that Xe employees had been involved in "snatch-and-grab operations" in Iraq.

Xe, based in North Carolina, changed its name from Blackwater after several of its employees were accused of killing 17 civilians in a shooting incident in Baghdad in September 2007.

Four men are due to stand trial next year.

'Joint operations'

Earlier this year, Mr Panetta ordered a review of the company's contacts to be sure its operatives were only performing security-related work, intelligence officials said on Friday.


At this time, Blackwater is not involved in any CIA operations other than in a security or support role
CIA spokesman George Little

Afterwards, a contract with Blackwater Select, a division which handles classified operations, to load missiles onto CIA Predator drones in Pakistan and Afghanistan was cancelled, they added.

A CIA spokesman, George Little, said Mr Panetta had since ordered that the agency's employees take over the task.

"At this time, Blackwater is not involved in any CIA operations other than in a security or support role," he told the New York Times.

The statement came a day after the paper quoted various unnamed current and former Blackwater staff as saying that in Iraq between 2004 and 2006, colleagues were involved in raids on suspected militants almost every night.

They said that, at one point, joint operations in Iraq and Afghanistan became so routine that Blackwater personnel sometimes were partners in missions instead of just providing security for CIA officers.

Former Blackwater employees also alleged that they provided security on some CIA rendition flights transporting detainees between prisons in different countries.

One former CIA officer was quoted as saying: "There was a feeling that Blackwater eventually became an extension of the agency."

Xe has insisted it was "never under contract to participate in covert raids with CIA or Special Operations personnel in Iraq, Afghanistan or anywhere else".

"Any allegation to the contrary by any news organisation would be false."

aki04
12-13-2009, 04:47 PM
how lazy do you have to be to have someone else load your drones, for like 5 times the money that regular army personnel could do for free, just because they are in the army and its their job. i guess they are finding new ways everyday to fuck the American taxpayers in their asses once more

Toki
12-13-2009, 09:38 PM
how lazy do you have to be to have someone else load your drones, for like 5 times the money that regular army personnel could do for free, just because they are in the army and its their job. i guess they are finding new ways everyday to fuck the American taxpayers in their asses once more

The CIA uses their own drones.

aki04
12-13-2009, 10:42 PM
The CIA uses their own drones.

i said reloading them, not using them, they pay blackwater to RELOAD the drones. and then a gain who does the cia get its founding from? wow, the us government. in the end tax money go to waste again, just use the military so you keep these dirty companies away, keep it legit

GTFPDQ
12-14-2009, 12:37 AM
I think that this is more to do with drones launched from Pakistan. Having a considerable military presence in Pakistan would be counter productive. Having civilians do the job probably allows Pakistan some insulation.

Desperado
12-14-2009, 02:33 AM
Blackwater has come under intense fire due to malfeasance and illegal actions by its employees. Panetta has a mandate from the President to clean up the mess left by the Bush administration. I suspect there is much more to this story than what has been reported in the press release. Blackwater operatives have been accused in the past of stealing ordinance and selling it on the illegal arms market. Also, I suspect that there are new, top secret UCAVs being deployed in the region with advanced weaponry and the CIA is not going to let a bunch of mad dog mercs handle these systems. One new system has been codenamed the Beast of Kandahar. It is a new jet-powered stealth UAV/UCAV with extraordinary abilities including stealth evasion that is completely undetectable by the Iranians and anybody else, carrier operations and both highly sophisticated surveillance and SIGINT capabilities plus an internal weapons bay for delivering advanced ordinance. USAF has finally acknowledged the Beast as the RQ-170 belonging to the 30th Reconnaissance Squadron. Frankly, I'm glad Panetta is cleaning up the mess and getting rid of Blackwater.

Bisley_Bob
12-14-2009, 07:53 AM
You know, it probably works out cheaper to use Blackwater personnel, you pay them high wages, but you don't have to feed them, house and pay for the drone operators that aren't working in Afghanistan, you only pay them for days they work, if they get injured/get ill it's their problem and you stop paying them, no pensions to pay at the end. The list goes on. Using PMCs is seriously cheap when you look at the big picture guys.

aki04
12-14-2009, 01:16 PM
You know, it probably works out cheaper to use Blackwater personnel, you pay them high wages, but you don't have to feed them, house and pay for the drone operators that aren't working in Afghanistan, you only pay them for days they work, if they get injured/get ill it's their problem and you stop paying them, no pensions to pay at the end. The list goes on. Using PMCs is seriously cheap when you look at the big picture guys.

ahah injured while loading drones, jupp you maybe hit your foot at something hart maybe

Bisley_Bob
12-14-2009, 06:30 PM
ahah injured while loading drones, jupp you maybe hit your foot at something hart maybe

Lots of people get injured around plant machinery such as forklift trucks and supply wagons, you just never hear about them because a serviceman has to die to make the news. Not to mention indirect fire attacks and the like.

dmaxx3500
12-14-2009, 08:58 PM
don't we lose 300-500 of our military every year with-out being in a war ?

Reactor-Axe-Man
12-15-2009, 01:28 AM
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nastyleg
12-15-2009, 02:00 PM
Due to accidents guess which accident claims more lives than most? Give up?


Driving is the #1 killer in peace time and in war time of military personnel. More than 300 military personnel die just by driving.