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"Eight U.S. Soldiers Dead in Bold Attack in Afghanistan
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By SABRINA TAVERNISE and SANGAR RAHIMI
Published: October 4, 2009
KABUL, Afghanistan — Insurgents besieged two American outposts in eastern Afghanistan on Saturday, American and Afghan officials said, killing eight Americans and two Afghan policemen in a bold daylight strike that was the deadliest for American soldiers in more than a year.
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The attack took place in the Nuristan province, a remote area on the border with Pakistan. It began Saturday morning, when insurgents stormed the area, pounding the two American base camps with guns and rocket-propelled grenades.
Americans fought back, striking their attackers with helicopters, heavy guns and airstrikes, but the insurgents were persistent and the battled lasted into the afternoon, said Col. Wayne Shanks, a spokesman for NATO forces in Afghanistan.
It was unclear whether insurgents made it inside either of the two compounds, but Colonel Shanks said that by the end of the battle, American forces still controlled the outposts. The Americans shared the compounds with Afghan security forces.
“The militants put on a very aggressive attack,” Col. Shanks said. “Our forces had to use a considerable amount of firepower to counter it.”
The governor of Nuristan province, Jamaluddin Badar, reached by telephone on Sunday, said that 11 Afghan police officers, including the district police chief, had been kidnapped in the strike. He said the attackers did breach the compounds briefly. The American military did not confirm the report.
Much about the attack was still unclear on Sunday, but its broad outlines were eerily familiar. Nine American soldiers were killed in July 2008 in the same province, when 200 insurgents stormed their small outpost in the village of Wanat.
That attack, which has been described as the “Black Hawk Down” of Afghanistan, with the 48 American soldiers and 24 Afghan soldiers outnumbered three to one in a four-hour firefight, is now seen as a cautionary tale for the war here, which commanders say should focus more on protecting civilians.
Locals in the area were furious with Americans for the killing of local medical staff in an airstrike the week before, and commanders believe that for that reason, they were more hospitable to insurgents.
Outrage was so intense that President Hamid Karzai called for an investigation into the airstrike, which local officials at the time said had killed 22 innocent Afghans.
Mr. Badar said Saturday’s attack took place in the Kamdysh district, about 10 miles from the border with Pakistan, and less than 20 miles southwest of the attack last year.
Attackers gathered in a mosque and a nearby village, before staging the attack. Mr. Badar said the attackers were Taliban fighters who had come from Pakistan, after military operations in that country pushed them out of their bases there. He said the strike was led by a Taliban commander named Dost Muhammed, whom he described as the shadow commander for the Taliban in Nuristan.
The Americans identified the attackers as “tribal militia,” a departure from their typical usage of the word Taliban. Col. Shanks said the description was more specific. Some military planners argue applying the word Taliban to all insurgents oversimplifies the fight Americans face here and gives the appearance, sometimes falsely, of a coordinated, hierarchical fighting force.
The American military statement said American forces had “effectively repelled the attack and inflicted heavy enemy casualties.”
It was the largest number of American casualties in a single day since the Wanat attack last July, according to iCasualties.org, an independent group that tracks NATO casualties here.
The bodies of at least five insurgents were found in the area after the fight, Mr. Badar said. The hostages were taken to Mandigal, a village in Kamdysh.
The commander of the unit the Americans belonged to, Col. Randy George, called Saturday’s strike “a complex attack in a difficult area.”
American forces had planned to pull out of the sparsely populated area, as part of a strategic shift to place more troops in heavily populated centers. The attack does not change those plans, Colonel Shanks said.
But Mr. Badar believes that would be a mistake. Too few troops in the area and clumsy airstrikes have created a poisonous mix for his province, whose proximity to the lawless tribal areas of Pakistan allows easy passage for the Taliban.
“We knew the Taliban was getting stronger every day in eastern Nuristan,” he said, describing how teachers and civil servants in the area had received threats and can no longer travel to the central parts of the province.
He added: “We have long shared our concern with the government and foreign forces, but they didn’t take it seriously.”
A Taliban spokesman, Zabiullah Mujahed, said that Taliban fighters overran the outposts and briefly occupied them.
He said Taliban fighters were holding the district police chief and an intelligence officer hostage. He said seven Taliban fighters had been killed and that the fighters eventually withdrew because the area came under bombardment.
In another attack on Saturday, one American soldier died of wounds after being struck with a bomb in eastern Afghanistan, the military said."
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/05/world/asia/05afghan.html?hp
"Eight U.S. Soldiers Dead in Bold Attack in Afghanistan
Article Tools Sponsored By
By SABRINA TAVERNISE and SANGAR RAHIMI
Published: October 4, 2009
KABUL, Afghanistan — Insurgents besieged two American outposts in eastern Afghanistan on Saturday, American and Afghan officials said, killing eight Americans and two Afghan policemen in a bold daylight strike that was the deadliest for American soldiers in more than a year.
Skip to next paragraph
Related
Week in Review: The Distance Between ‘We Must’ and ‘We Can’ (October 4, 2009)
Report Cites Firefight as Lesson on Afghan War (October 3, 2009)
Times Topics: Afghanistan
The attack took place in the Nuristan province, a remote area on the border with Pakistan. It began Saturday morning, when insurgents stormed the area, pounding the two American base camps with guns and rocket-propelled grenades.
Americans fought back, striking their attackers with helicopters, heavy guns and airstrikes, but the insurgents were persistent and the battled lasted into the afternoon, said Col. Wayne Shanks, a spokesman for NATO forces in Afghanistan.
It was unclear whether insurgents made it inside either of the two compounds, but Colonel Shanks said that by the end of the battle, American forces still controlled the outposts. The Americans shared the compounds with Afghan security forces.
“The militants put on a very aggressive attack,” Col. Shanks said. “Our forces had to use a considerable amount of firepower to counter it.”
The governor of Nuristan province, Jamaluddin Badar, reached by telephone on Sunday, said that 11 Afghan police officers, including the district police chief, had been kidnapped in the strike. He said the attackers did breach the compounds briefly. The American military did not confirm the report.
Much about the attack was still unclear on Sunday, but its broad outlines were eerily familiar. Nine American soldiers were killed in July 2008 in the same province, when 200 insurgents stormed their small outpost in the village of Wanat.
That attack, which has been described as the “Black Hawk Down” of Afghanistan, with the 48 American soldiers and 24 Afghan soldiers outnumbered three to one in a four-hour firefight, is now seen as a cautionary tale for the war here, which commanders say should focus more on protecting civilians.
Locals in the area were furious with Americans for the killing of local medical staff in an airstrike the week before, and commanders believe that for that reason, they were more hospitable to insurgents.
Outrage was so intense that President Hamid Karzai called for an investigation into the airstrike, which local officials at the time said had killed 22 innocent Afghans.
Mr. Badar said Saturday’s attack took place in the Kamdysh district, about 10 miles from the border with Pakistan, and less than 20 miles southwest of the attack last year.
Attackers gathered in a mosque and a nearby village, before staging the attack. Mr. Badar said the attackers were Taliban fighters who had come from Pakistan, after military operations in that country pushed them out of their bases there. He said the strike was led by a Taliban commander named Dost Muhammed, whom he described as the shadow commander for the Taliban in Nuristan.
The Americans identified the attackers as “tribal militia,” a departure from their typical usage of the word Taliban. Col. Shanks said the description was more specific. Some military planners argue applying the word Taliban to all insurgents oversimplifies the fight Americans face here and gives the appearance, sometimes falsely, of a coordinated, hierarchical fighting force.
The American military statement said American forces had “effectively repelled the attack and inflicted heavy enemy casualties.”
It was the largest number of American casualties in a single day since the Wanat attack last July, according to iCasualties.org, an independent group that tracks NATO casualties here.
The bodies of at least five insurgents were found in the area after the fight, Mr. Badar said. The hostages were taken to Mandigal, a village in Kamdysh.
The commander of the unit the Americans belonged to, Col. Randy George, called Saturday’s strike “a complex attack in a difficult area.”
American forces had planned to pull out of the sparsely populated area, as part of a strategic shift to place more troops in heavily populated centers. The attack does not change those plans, Colonel Shanks said.
But Mr. Badar believes that would be a mistake. Too few troops in the area and clumsy airstrikes have created a poisonous mix for his province, whose proximity to the lawless tribal areas of Pakistan allows easy passage for the Taliban.
“We knew the Taliban was getting stronger every day in eastern Nuristan,” he said, describing how teachers and civil servants in the area had received threats and can no longer travel to the central parts of the province.
He added: “We have long shared our concern with the government and foreign forces, but they didn’t take it seriously.”
A Taliban spokesman, Zabiullah Mujahed, said that Taliban fighters overran the outposts and briefly occupied them.
He said Taliban fighters were holding the district police chief and an intelligence officer hostage. He said seven Taliban fighters had been killed and that the fighters eventually withdrew because the area came under bombardment.
In another attack on Saturday, one American soldier died of wounds after being struck with a bomb in eastern Afghanistan, the military said."