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bobdina
10-02-2009, 09:40 PM
In a PBS interview on Monday, Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton dismissed Gen. Stanley A. McChrystal's detailed assessment of the situation in Afghanistan. "I respect that because clearly he is the commander on the ground," she said, "but I can only tell you there are other assessments from very expert military analysts who have worked in counterinsurgencies that are the exact opposite." She said the administration's goal "is to take all of this incoming data and sort it out."

We aren't sure what the secretary of state means by "the exact opposite" of Gen. McChrystal's assessment. He concluded that a change was needed in U.S. strategy, further resources were required, the Afghan forces need to be made more effective and that success is achievable. Should we believe the exact opposite - that a change in strategy is not needed, resources are adequate, the Afghan forces are fine as they are, and we are headed for certain failure?

Mrs. Clinton is correct that there is no lack of views on the subject. Counterinsurgency "experts" proliferated in Washington after the invasion of Iraq in the same way that the city was suddenly awash in counterterrorism "experts" after the Sept. 11 attacks. The White House is free to pick and choose from among them in the same way a patient can shop for doctors until he gets the diagnosis he likes. Unfortunately, this path is frequently fatal for the patient.

Mrs. Clinton's assertion that the McChrystal report is just one more data point is astonishing. Gen. McChrystal had access to the most complete and most current information, is closest to the fight, consulted with scores of specialists and drew on his 33 years of military experience, which is largely in the area of unconventional warfare. His assessment may not be the final word on Afghanistan, but it cannot be dismissed as just another random input in the policy mix.

Mrs. Clinton has a dubious record as a judge of counterinsurgencies. In September 2007, then-Sen. Clinton told Gen. David H. Petraeus that the reports he provided on the progress of the surge strategy in Iraq "really require the willing suspension of disbelief." She was running for president at the time and fleeing the 2002 Iraq war authorization vote that had alienated her from the left wing of the Democratic Party. But reality trumped her politically motivated skepticism. Her comments on the McChrystal report should be taken in that light.

Mrs. Clinton is faithfully following the White House line, which is based more on political expediency than military reality. But the country cannot afford to make Afghan policy on cherry-picked analyses supporting politicized conclusions. Implementing the recommendations in the McChrystal report requires strong leadership. Unfortunately, the administration is providing the exact opposite.

acf6
10-02-2009, 10:19 PM
Yea and if you believe her I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you!! LOL

Reactor-Axe-Man
10-03-2009, 12:33 AM
Yeah, Hillary, this is clearly a case where your vast body of knowledge and first-hand experience with COIN operations trumps some amateur Special Operations general...

Why do we listen to these clowns? Why do we let them be in charge?

ghost
10-03-2009, 10:13 AM
Haha. Wow. At least she's got all that special operations experience to back it up. Maybe she could share some experiences with the General. Like the time she was "shot at by snipers in the Balkans"..... :hb:

Politicians crack me the fuck up.

GTFPDQ
10-03-2009, 10:56 AM
Its saddening to see the US President almost point blank dismiss the recommendations of his top military commander in the field. Clinton just adds insult to injury by acting as though she knows best.

I can see the future of Afghanistan fade a little more each day.

ghost
10-03-2009, 11:18 AM
I can see the future of Afghanistan fade a little more each day.


Sadly enough, so can I. Why can't we have real leaders?

infidelforlife
10-04-2009, 09:10 PM
ghost its because people believed in this bullshit hope and change that obamabinlying was feeding people i new from the start he was full of shit and now we have this fucker that goes around kissing the enemy ass and trying to put our own damn CIA in jail for getting info from damn terrorist to keep us safe at home see that how the liberals work blame America first and dismantle our military slowly and get out of afghanistan when the going gets rough we have some liberals in congress right now wanting to cut off the troops and when that happens the money to support our troops will be cut off that is why our enemy loves the liberals .................. HOW THIS CHANGE WORKING FOR YOU BRO? IT SUCKS FOR ME ............ NEVER SUBMIT

nastyleg
10-05-2009, 01:26 AM
Yea and if you believe her I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you!! LOL

I got some ocean front property in Az. From my front porch you can see the sea. LOL