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bobdina
09-26-2009, 12:44 AM
Afghanistan candidate sees need for more U.S. troops, laments corruption
By Dianna Cahn, Stars and Stripes
Mideast edition, Saturday, September 26, 2009
Dianna Cahn/Stars and Stripes
At his home in Kabul, Dr. Abdullah Abdullah, the main opposition candidate in the disputed Afghan presidential elections, holds a list of polling sites where he claims widespread fraud took place. Abdullah warned that while additional troops are welcome, they will not fix the widespread corruption that threatens stability.

KABUL — The top opposition candidate in Afghanistan said he welcomes a call for more American troops to fight an intensifying insurgency, but warned that endemic corruption that tainted recent elections could undermine any military successes.

Abdullah Abdullah, who is trailing President Hamid Karzai in disputed election results, told Stars and Stripes that without fixing failed state institutions, including the still-fledgling Afghan National Police, the country was on the brink of collapse.

“I believe in the argument that there is a need for more troops. But at the same time, I question what will be achieved to maintain the rule of law of a corrupt government?” Abdullah said.

“Eight years down the road from the Bonn Conference, we should be in a situation to ask for less troops. It was possible. Because of the failures of leadership in the current administration in Afghanistan, the only thing that can help us survive is more troops. Otherwise we are warning of failure.”

In December 2001, a number of prominent Afghans met in Bonn, Germany, to re-create the state of Afghanistan following the U.S. invasion.

Abdullah’s grim view mirrors a blunt assessment of the war by the top U.S. commander in Afghanistan. In a report that described a strategy of nation-building, Gen. Stanley McChrystal warned that the urgent need to stem the insurgent momentum was matched by the enormous threat caused by widespread corruption and abuse of power in Afghanistan’s governing institutions.

He also warned that NATO forces had failed to protect, defend or properly understand the Afghan people, further undermining public faith in the government and in NATO’s mission. A new strategy was critical if the troops were to succeed against the insurgency, he concluded.

McChrystal’s assessment has given new urgency to calls for President Barack Obama to reconsider the U.S. commitment to an intensifying fight in Afghanistan. Administration officials have been quick to state that the general’s report is just one of several views it is considering on how to best move forward with the war.

Allegations of widespread voter fraud remain an obstacle. Preliminary results from the Aug. 20 elections give Karzai around 55 percent of the vote, compared with less than 30 percent for Abdullah, but watchdog groups say the number of questionable votes is more than enough to bring Karzai below 50 percent. The candidates would then compete in a runoff election.

At a makeshift camp for homeless and internally displaced Afghans, Hassan, a 27-year-old father of five who lives with his wife and children in a two-room mud hut, said the government has left people like him to rot. Though he feels disenfranchised, he voted for Karzai.

“I don’t think one vote can make a change,” said Hassan, who, like many Afghans, uses one name. “So we voted for him.”

Karzai administration officials rejected the notion that the government was a failure or that the debate in Washington indicated the U.S. was considering a retreat from Afghanistan. Rather, they focused on McChrystal’s call for better training of Afghan forces and better protection of Afghan civilians as a recipe for success and downplayed the level of corruption that needs to be addressed.

“One of the reasons — there are many — as to why the insurgency has spread its roots again is our inability to provide the people with local government,” acknowledged Karzai spokesman Wahid Omar.

Abdullah said he is aware his dire predictions could further alienate U.S. support, but he believed that the opportunity to save his country was fading quickly.

“To be caught in this sort of dilemma, that stating the truth [about] the sad realities of this country might lead to a lack of support, is a bitter pill. But at the same time ... we won’t have another opportunity if we miss it this time around. So I voice my opinion,” he said.

“It’s not like a hopeless voice, but rather hopeful that we can save it,” he added, “especially with the renewed commitment of the Democratic administration in the U.S.”

Omar said he saw the debate in Washington as a natural discussion over a serious proposal. His government, he said, would welcome additional U.S. troops on the condition that they help build up the Afghan National Army and the Afghan National Police or secure Afghanistan’s border with Pakistan, where the majority of insurgent training bases are located. He blamed a large part of the erosion of public confidence on the inability of Afghan security forces to properly protect the people.

Defense Ministry spokesman Gen. Mohammad Zahir Azimi charged that the failure lies outside his government.

“I respect the assessment of General McChrystal but this situation, this lack of confidence, was created by international forces and international politicians,” he said.

If U.S. and NATO forces put their focus on building up Afghan forces, it will also serve to reassure the Americans “that this is not another Vietnam for them, that we are close to success,” Azimi said. “If they seriously focus on the ANA, we can have remarkable change.”


http://www.stripes.com/article.asp?section=104&article=65018

bobdina
09-26-2009, 01:09 AM
Said it time and time again, more troops are needed to train the ANA and ANP correctly so there will be less corruption (never going to get no corruption) and the troops can secure the villages while the new Afghans forces are being trained properly. If the opposition in Afghanistan wants more troops, the ruling party wants more troops , the Pentagon wants more troops whats the hold up?
Send the troops requested for a 1 year surge, if that does not work then rethink policy, don't cut and run now it is not fair to A. the troops we have there now and who have died and been wounded ( don't give me that line of shit it will save soldiers lives, everyone of them have enlisted or re-enlisted while 2 wars are going on and know the stakes) B. the Afghan people who want peace C. the political process there as with out more troops there will be corruption and nothing will change.
If the real reason for delaying the troops requested was the corruption and the election it would have been stated before the elections that the new policy will be based on how much corruption there was during the elections, and if we can trust the Afghan government, it was never mentioned. This is typical politics getting in the way of the experts who know how to run a war . Now we have a Vice President who knows more about running COIN operations then the men who did it successfully during the surge in Iraq and who have spent their entire military careers practicing it .
For those with short memories, all the naysayers said the surge would not work in Iraq because the government was splintered and did not have the full support of the populace. But look where's it at now, not perfect but a hell of a lot better then it was because the military was allowed to do what it does best, fight wars.
I for one am sick of all this backpedaling, Pres. Obama made Afghanistan HIS war when he stated not enough was being done there . Now that the polls come out he's backpedaling more then an NFL cornerback.

acf6
09-26-2009, 02:04 AM
Said it time and time again, more troops are needed to train the ANA and ANP correctly so there will be less corruption (never going to get no corruption) and the troops can secure the villages while the new Afghans forces are being trained properly. If the opposition in Afghanistan wants more troops, the ruling party wants more troops , the Pentagon wants more troops whats the hold up?
Send the troops requested for a 1 year surge, if that does not work then rethink policy, don't cut and run now it is not fair to A. the troops we have there now and who have died and been wounded ( don't give me that line of shit it will save soldiers lives, everyone of them have enlisted or re-enlisted while 2 wars are going on and know the stakes) B. the Afghan people who want peace C. the political process there as with out more troops there will be corruption and nothing will change.
If the real reason for delaying the troops requested was the corruption and the election it would have been stated before the elections that the new policy will be based on how much corruption there was during the elections, and if we can trust the Afghan government, it was never mentioned. This is typical politics getting in the way of the experts who know how to run a war . Now we have a Vice President who knows more about running COIN operations then the men who did it successfully during the surge in Iraq and who have spent their entire military careers practicing it .
For those with short memories, all the naysayers said the surge would not work in Iraq because the government was splintered and did not have the full support of the populace. But look where's it at now, not perfect but a hell of a lot better then it was because the military was allowed to do what it does best, fight wars.
I for one am sick of all this backpedaling, Pres. Obama made Afghanistan HIS war when he stated not enough was being done there . Now that the polls come out he's backpedaling more then an NFL cornerback.

Well Said Bob!!

ghost
09-26-2009, 12:48 PM
Said it time and time again, more troops are needed to train the ANA and ANP correctly so there will be less corruption (never going to get no corruption) and the troops can secure the villages while the new Afghans forces are being trained properly. If the opposition in Afghanistan wants more troops, the ruling party wants more troops , the Pentagon wants more troops whats the hold up?
Send the troops requested for a 1 year surge, if that does not work then rethink policy, don't cut and run now it is not fair to A. the troops we have there now and who have died and been wounded ( don't give me that line of shit it will save soldiers lives, everyone of them have enlisted or re-enlisted while 2 wars are going on and know the stakes) B. the Afghan people who want peace C. the political process there as with out more troops there will be corruption and nothing will change.
If the real reason for delaying the troops requested was the corruption and the election it would have been stated before the elections that the new policy will be based on how much corruption there was during the elections, and if we can trust the Afghan government, it was never mentioned. This is typical politics getting in the way of the experts who know how to run a war . Now we have a Vice President who knows more about running COIN operations then the men who did it successfully during the surge in Iraq and who have spent their entire military careers practicing it .
For those with short memories, all the naysayers said the surge would not work in Iraq because the government was splintered and did not have the full support of the populace. But look where's it at now, not perfect but a hell of a lot better then it was because the military was allowed to do what it does best, fight wars.
I for one am sick of all this backpedaling, Pres. Obama made Afghanistan HIS war when he stated not enough was being done there . Now that the polls come out he's backpedaling more then an NFL cornerback.


Yup, well said. What the hell are they doing anyway?