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eaglethebeagle
11-01-2012, 01:10 PM
http://dailycaller.com/2012/10/31/all-whites-are-going-to-hell-says-civil-rights-icon/


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All white people are going to hell, longtime African-American civil rights advocate Rev. Joseph Lowery told an audience at a get-out-the-vote event held Oct. 27 in Georgia.
Lowery, who gave the benediction at the January 2009 inauguration of President Barack Obama, told the audience of up to 300 African-Americans “that when he was a young militant, he used to say all white folks were going to hell. Then he mellowed and just said most of them were. Now, he said, he is back to where he was,” according to an Oct. 31 report in the Monroe County Reporter newspaper.
“I don’t know what kind of a n—– wouldn’t vote with a black man running,” Lowery also told the audience in the St. James Baptist Church in Forsyth, Ga., according to the Reporter.
“He was saying [that] based on all of the hatred that’s going on” towards President Barack Obama, Helen Butler, the executive director of Lowery’s Georgia-based Coalition for the People’s Agenda, told The Daily Caller.
“He just fell that he should feel the way he used to feel,” Butler, who attended the rally, explained.
“Of course he doesn’t believe that all whites should go to hell,” she added.
“That’s not him — he’s a very caring person.”
“He was trying to get people motivated to ensure they go and vote…. [and] he did make the point that there is a lot of hatred in this country,” she said.“It was a joke” told via the perspective of a young militant, Lowery told TheDC. “When I said it, I said it was a joke, I identified it as a joke,” he said.
However, the article also quotes Forsyth Mayor John Howard saying he was “pretty shocked” by Lowery’s comments.
Howard “said if a speaker had made the same comments about black people, he would have gotten up and left… He said the Bible gives set instructions on how to go to heaven and it doesn’t say anything about skin color … [and] he said he looked at the face of his pastor, the Rev. Antonio Proctor, and could tell he was real shocked too,” according to the Macon County Reporter account.
“Howard said he and Proctor talked about putting a video of the event on Forsyth Cablehttp://images.intellitxt.com/ast/adTypes/icon1.png (http://dailycaller.com/2012/10/31/all-whites-are-going-to-hell-says-civil-rights-icon/#) TV but decided after [Lowery’s] comments that it wasn’t a good idea,” the article said.
When asked by TheDC about the other notable comment — “what kind of a n—- wouldn’t vote with a black man running” — Lowery said he did not remember making that statement.
“I never said that, I don’t remember saying that,” he told TheDC.


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eaglethebeagle
11-01-2012, 01:13 PM
Go vote for obama cuz he be lovin you white boys.... servin him his coffee biaatchhes.

So after more hate from the obama circle of friends who again is voting obama here at AC? I would love to know.


On another note when that old black sum bitch is attending Falcons games he is cheering on Matty Ice to throw some touchdowns.

HooterBro
11-01-2012, 02:23 PM
No racial slurs can be used huh?

Well, then, I say this. That man is a pigger. Always waiting for a "the" man to give him something to eat, eating anything he can get his hands on, fucking anything he can get his dick into or just outright stealing shit from the other farm inhabitants. The whole time, resenting YOU for providing it for him.

Piggers should of been left in the mud. That's where they're happiest.

coltsfan2007
11-01-2012, 03:36 PM
You have to say it like them, HooterBro. You do not pronounce it nigger that is wrong. You say, "My Nigga'" then all is good! :lol:

SATX
11-01-2012, 03:44 PM
So after more hate from the obama circle of friends who again is voting obama here at AC? I would love to know.

I am sure we all know they guy from AC who will be voting for Osama. Sadly, he's lost the will to debate here on AC :eusa_snooty:

coltsfan2007
11-01-2012, 04:15 PM
Lmao..............satx

gazzthompson
11-01-2012, 04:18 PM
he's lost the will to debate here on AC :eusa_snooty:

Me? Being British , I can't. If i could i would vote for gary johnson.

SATX
11-01-2012, 05:00 PM
Me? Being British , I can't. If i could i would vote for gary johnson.

Being American, I can't vote in the UK. But if I could, I'd vote to can that useless drain on the tax payers called the monarchy.

Why come on this board and piss all over guys who actually have a stake in this election? I don't think anyone believes that Romney is THE best man for the job, but we have limited choices and he certainly can't be any worse than Obama.

I don't understand, you've done eveything but post a pic of yourself going down on Obama any time a negative post or thread regarding him is started. If it doesn't directly effect you, and I am not talking foreign policy, then just STFU already. And if it does directly effect you, please explain. You might get cut some slack.

gazzthompson
11-01-2012, 05:07 PM
I and a fair amount of others quite like the monarchy, Drain on tax payers is also debatable but cant be fucked with that topic.

And as I've said before, Why do Foreigners follow US elections? Because it is fucking hilarious, Its like watching a comedy show/Film (will ferrell the campaign, Lol). Its entertainment, Not in a good way but in a "holy fuck this is insane" way.

People like yourself and eagle etc... its brilliant, Its fascinating how people can have such mindsets. I also have a personal wager with eagle regarding the election.

Sixx
11-01-2012, 05:28 PM
Y'all niggas is funny.




:D :D

gazzthompson
11-01-2012, 05:40 PM
Y'all niggas is funny.


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coltsfan2007
11-01-2012, 06:24 PM
And funny :lol:

SATX
11-01-2012, 06:38 PM
I and a fair amount of others quite like the monarchy, Drain on tax payers is also debatable but cant be fucked with that topic.

And as I've said before, Why do Foreigners follow US elections? Because it is fucking hilarious, Its like watching a comedy show/Film (will ferrell the campaign, Lol). Its entertainment, Not in a good way but in a "holy fuck this is insane" way.

People like yourself and eagle etc... its brilliant, Its fascinating how people can have such mindsets. I also have a personal wager with eagle regarding the election.

I am glad you find it amusing and that Eagle and I are apparently 'brilliant'. It's nice to be appreciated. By the way, I was born in California and am a US citizen by birth, but my father is Canadian and I have dual citizenship, so I do get the whole monarchy thing. Have lots of family that were originally from across the pond.

The point was I don't find it necessary to find a board, then post comments about hot Pippa's ass is, or how stupid Kate is for not understanding she seems to be the center of the universe over there and ought to keep her clothes on for the next few years, or how Prince Harry has F'ed up any chance at being respected with the kind of the crap he pulled in Vegas. As funny as all that is, it's not really any of my business, so I see no reason to inform the Brit's of my opinions on it. Getting any of the parallels yet?

Seriously, you ought to thank those of us that do give a damn about the election and politics here in America. It may have turned out very differently for our families had the Isolationists, prior to WWII, continued on their path here in the US. I am sure many of your kind back then thought the 'spectacle' of Charles Lindbergh pressing Roosevelt and the US to stay out of the war and abandon the UK to her fate was just hilarious.

gazzthompson
11-01-2012, 06:47 PM
From personal experience and what I've read, harry is very respected partly because of the shit he pulls, hes normal and down for a laugh. You are free to comment on anything British, its a lot more boring than American politics I can assure you.

coltsfan2007
11-01-2012, 07:57 PM
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eaglethebeagle
11-01-2012, 08:13 PM
I and a fair amount of others quite like the monarchy, Drain on tax payers is also debatable but cant be fucked with that topic.

And as I've said before, Why do Foreigners follow US elections? Because it is fucking hilarious, Its like watching a comedy show/Film (will ferrell the campaign, Lol). Its entertainment, Not in a good way but in a "holy fuck this is insane" way.

People like yourself and eagle etc... its brilliant, Its fascinating how people can have such mindsets. I also have a personal wager with eagle regarding the election.


Best wager I ever made. You will be shamed off the AC island in less than a week. How you feeling about that bro?

gazzthompson
11-02-2012, 03:33 AM
My body is ready.

eaglethebeagle
11-02-2012, 11:15 AM
My body is ready.

Did you wrap yourself in the shroud already? WTF

gazzthompson
11-02-2012, 12:51 PM
I am always prepared.

eaglethebeagle
11-02-2012, 03:08 PM
I am always prepared.


For what? the 12th imam?

atrox6661
11-02-2012, 03:45 PM
People still believe in hell? lol

gazzthompson
11-02-2012, 03:50 PM
For what? the 12th imam?

The holy war , us Muslims lay and wait for the beginning of the holy war. We have joined alliances with the socialists, Marxists, Communists with Obama as our dear leader. We wait for his command to launch attack on the world.

SATX
11-02-2012, 04:06 PM
The holy war , us Muslims lay and wait for the beginning of the holy war. We have joined alliances with the socialists, Marxists, Communists with Obama as our dear leader. We wait for his command to launch attack on the world.


:thumbsup: That would please some of us. I have an understanding wife who enjoys shooting black rifles as much as I do and doesn't care how much ammo I stockpile. :camouflage:

At least then it would be out in the open, unlike the subversive shit Osama tries to get away with now.

Still entertained? Finding it all hilarious? I think you'd find we wouldn't be hiding behind our children and women the way the Taliban do. :rohan: :nono:

And no, I don't think for a second your serious.

gazzthompson
11-02-2012, 04:13 PM
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coltsfan2007
11-02-2012, 04:27 PM
Not an O'fuckhead fan, but that pic. is funny.

mrfrosty
11-02-2012, 06:01 PM
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mrfrosty
11-02-2012, 06:04 PM
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SATX
11-02-2012, 08:33 PM
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/02/business/questions-raised-on-withdrawal-of-congressional-research-services-report-on-tax-rates.html

Irrelevant, but if you'd like to pick and choose, have the intelligence to read on. These are all facts, easily verified. These are the kinds of people Obama nominated for positions within his administration.

Bill Richardson withdrew his nomination as Secretary of Commerce amid a grand jury investigation into a state contract awarded to his political donors.

His next pick, Judd Gregg, withdrew his nomination as Secretary of Commerce, citing "irresolvable conflicts" with President Obama and his staff over how to conduct the 2010 census and the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009.

Tom Daschle was Obama's original nominee for Health and Human Services Secretary. However, he owed over $128,000 in taxes over three years, failed to report more than $83,000 in consulting fees in 2007, and owed $12,000 in interest and penalties. He also provided insufficient documentation for $15,000 of the $276,000 in charitable contributions that he and his wife, Linda, gave during the three-year period being studied by the panel. Daschle also had some miscommunications with his accountant on the $255,000 use of a luxury car service that was used 80% for personal services. Daschle paid his back taxes six days before his first confirmation hearings with the United States Senate Committee on Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions. The New York Times called the Daschle nomination into question both for his tax issues and for his extensive private sector work in the health services industry. The editorial noted that although Daschle was aware of his tax problem in June 2008, he did not correct ii until his cabinet nomination.

Timothy Geithner, who was nominated as Treasury Secretary, also encountered tax issues. He apologised to the United States Senate Committee on Finance for having overlooked paying $34,000 in Social Security and Medicare taxes earlier this decade. He was confirmed despite failure to pay a total of $43,000 in taxes and penalties, which troubled the Senate.

Nancy Killefer was nominated for the position of Chief Performance Officer, but withdrew in February after it was revealed that she had failed to pay the unemployment compensation tax for a household employee for a period of 18 months.

U.S. Trade Representative nominee Ron Kirk's failure to be confirmed by March 2009, was due to a report on 2 March that Kirk owed over $10,000 in back taxes. Kirk agreed to pay them in exchange for Senate Finance Committee Chairman Max Baucus's aid in speeding up the confirmation process. Un-fucking believable.

Hilda Solis was nominated as Secretary of Labor but she faced delayed confirmation hearings due to her pro-labor activities as a board member of American Rights at Work and because of $6,400 in unpaid tax liens against her husband's auto repair business. Both Solis, who was uninvolved in the business, and her husband claimed not to have had any knowledge of the 16-year old liens prior to their disclosure by a newspaper, and they paid it when notified. Delays were however exacerbated due to Solis' perceived unresponsiveness to questions. Solis was later confirmed on 24 February. Again, un-fucking believable.

And don't forget all the Czars this guy has appointed. With no accountability to the public, as they were never voted into office.

U.S. Border Czar: Alan Bersin
Medicare/Healthcare Czar: Dr. Donald Berwick
Manufacturing Czar: Ron Bloom
Electronic Health Records Czar: Dr. David Blumenthal
Terrorism Czar: John Brennan
Energy and Climate Change Czar: Carol Browner
Weapons Czar: Ashton Carter
Technology Czar: Aneesh Chopra
Intelligence Czar: James Clapper
AIDS Czar: Jeffrey Crowley (seriously?!)
Great Lakes Czar: Cameron Davis
Tobacco Czar: Lawrence Deyton
Stimulus Czar: Earl Devaney
Mideast Policy/Central Region/Iran Czar: Philo Dibble
Faith-based Czar: Joshua Dubois (seems a waste, you know with all of Obama's white hating religious mentors!)
IP Enforcement Czar: Victoria Espinel
Workplace Czar: Chai Feldblum
Regulatory Czar: Cass Sunstein
Food Safety Czar: Michael Taylor
Native American Affairs Czar: Kimberley Teehee
Latin American Czar: Arturo Valenzuela
Consumer Czar: Elizabeth Warren
Performance Czar: Jeffrey Zients

There's more Czars, and there are more open or planned Czar postions, but I'm tired of typing.

But hey, let's not forget one of the biggest lies he told us. Any law that congress was looking at enacting would be posted on a government website for the American people to read and review. Those ass clowns in Washington admitted to not reading the Health Care Reform Act before voting it into law, a law that does not apply to them.

Run around with your Obama pom-poms if you like, but I'll take a que from Obama and vote for change. :thumbup:

BrendenF11
11-02-2012, 08:59 PM
The issue isn't Obama/Romney, even as much as you would like to believe. The issue is over the measurement of government. How much should the government be involved in a persons life? What is the role of government? Does the government reserve the right to step in? How much regulation should the government impose upon the United State citizens? ETC.

So while all of you degrade the Obama administration so much, and speak of how evil it is and how Romney is the lesser of the two evils and that makes everything alright just keep in mind. Since 9/11 the role of the government has been expanded to the likes never seen before in the United States. The key thing here is that it IS NOT a democrat/republican issue.

Now unfortunately we are not allowed to vote for a third part in the United States, due to the fact that we have to choose between a democrat or a republican. It's not true, and I know everyone in this country knows that. However, vote Obama or Vote Romney you WILL NOT get a candidate or a person, you will get a party. The parties rule the United States, and will continue to do so. You think the czars started with Obama? Obama took the lead and the power that was granted to him by the previous administration, as will who ever wins the next election.


The whole point of the democrat and republican parties is to ensure that they have the means to secure their political future, there by securing their endorsements and money from outside sources. Take a look at the republican party, the highly endorse that corporations are people, and there by reserve a right to influence an election by producing commercials, and super PAC's straying the actual point of an election. The democrats are no better, ie the hand outs, welfare checks etc.

I could type for hours about this. The point being if you really think that republicans give two shits about what you think or who you are, then you are a fool. Same thing goes for the democrats. To say either is better than the other is a falacy, simply because they are the exact same. They take the same money from the same people, influence the same ideas, ideologies, and thought processes. When you break it down that's all that matters, where the money comes from they don't give a shit about the rest.


Bush's Czars: http://www.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/Czars.pdf
knock fact check all you want look it up, they're all there. Please tell me the difference between the two?


Fuck em all, it will be to late before people in this country wake the fuck up and realize what's going on and how much they are getting screwed. The patriot act (Bush) and the NDAA acts (Obama) have degraded United States citizens liberties and given our "leaders" more power now (and it will increase no matter who is elected) than ever before.

Vote for them, don't read about it just believe what the liberal and conservative media feeds you, I mean it's true if you agree with what they say and it's what you wanted to hear right? Ok then.

eaglethebeagle
11-02-2012, 10:08 PM
The issue isn't Obama/Romney, even as much as you would like to believe. The issue is over the measurement of government. How much should the government be involved in a persons life? What is the role of government? Does the government reserve the right to step in? How much regulation should the government impose upon the United State citizens? ETC.

So while all of you degrade the Obama administration so much, and speak of how evil it is and how Romney is the lesser of the two evils and that makes everything alright just keep in mind. Since 9/11 the role of the government has been expanded to the likes never seen before in the United States. The key thing here is that it IS NOT a democrat/republican issue.

Now unfortunately we are not allowed to vote for a third part in the United States, due to the fact that we have to choose between a democrat or a republican. It's not true, and I know everyone in this country knows that. However, vote Obama or Vote Romney you WILL NOT get a candidate or a person, you will get a party. The parties rule the United States, and will continue to do so. You think the czars started with Obama? Obama took the lead and the power that was granted to him by the previous administration, as will who ever wins the next election.


The whole point of the democrat and republican parties is to ensure that they have the means to secure their political future, there by securing their endorsements and money from outside sources. Take a look at the republican party, the highly endorse that corporations are people, and there by reserve a right to influence an election by producing commercials, and super PAC's straying the actual point of an election. The democrats are no better, ie the hand outs, welfare checks etc.

I could type for hours about this. The point being if you really think that republicans give two shits about what you think or who you are, then you are a fool. Same thing goes for the democrats. To say either is better than the other is a falacy, simply because they are the exact same. They take the same money from the same people, influence the same ideas, ideologies, and thought processes. When you break it down that's all that matters, where the money comes from they don't give a shit about the rest.


Bush's Czars: http://www.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/Czars.pdf
knock fact check all you want look it up, they're all there. Please tell me the difference between the two?


Fuck em all, it will be to late before people in this country wake the fuck up and realize what's going on and how much they are getting screwed. The patriot act (Bush) and the NDAA acts (Obama) have degraded United States citizens liberties and given our "leaders" more power now (and it will increase no matter who is elected) than ever before.

Vote for them, don't read about it just believe what the liberal and conservative media feeds you, I mean it's true if you agree with what they say and it's what you wanted to hear right? Ok then.


I will start with this. There has never been socialized healthcare forced down our throats ever in American history. NEVER PERIOD. So now what was that about Bush and obama are the same? Ok thanks for playing that game. You want socialized healthcare? Then get ready to watch granny suffer as she gets old.


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/9644287/NHS-millions-for-controversial-care-pathway.html

NHS millions for controversial care pathway

The majority of NHS hospitals in England are being given financial rewards for placing terminally-ill patients on a controversial “pathway” to death, it can be disclosed.

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02072/hospital-bed_2072858b.jpgNHS millions for controversial care pathway Photo: Getty Images








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By John Bingham (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/journalists/john-bingham/), Social Affairs Editor

10:07PM GMT 31 Oct 2012

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Almost two thirds of NHS trusts using the Liverpool Care Pathway have received payouts totalling millions of pounds for hitting targets related to its use, research for The Daily Telegraph shows.

The figures, obtained under the Freedom of Information Act, reveal the full scale of financial inducements for the first time.

They suggest that about 85 per cent of trusts have now adopted the regime, which can involve the removal of hydration and nutrition from dying patients.

More than six out of 10 of those trusts - just over half of the total - have received or are due to receive financial rewards for doing so amounting to at least £12million.



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At many hospitals more than 50 per cent of all patients who died had been placed on the pathway and in one case the proportion of forseeable deaths on the pathway was almost nine out of 10.
Last night the Department of Health insisted that the payments could help ensure that people were “treated with dignity in their final days and hours”.
But opponents described it as “absolutely shocking” that hospitals could be paid to employ potentially “lethal” treatments.
The LCP was originally developed at the Royal Liverpool University Hospital and the city’s Marie Curie hospice to ease suffering in dying patients, setting out principles for how they to be treated.
It involves the withdrawal of treatments or tests from patients which doctors believe could cause distress and do more harm than good.
Protocols say that doctors should consult the patient, if possible, and their families.
But the system has been mired in controversy amid claims that it can actively hasten death.
A series of cases have also come to light in which family members said they were not consulted or even informed when food and fluids were withheld from their loved-ones.
In some instances patients placed on the pathway because doctors judged that they were nearing the end of their life went on to recover.
According to responses from a sample of 72 trusts, at least £12.4 million has been paid out in the past two to three years to trusts which hit targets associated with use of the care pathway. But the full figure could be more than £20 million.
Under a system known as “Commissioning for Quality and Innovation” (CQUIN), local NHS commissioners pay trusts for meeting targets to “reward excellence” in care.
These can range from simply recruiting a set number of people to classes to help them stop smoking to providing specialist end-of-life services on wards - such as LCP.
As the goals are set locally, they vary from area to area but in some cases trusts are given specific targets to ensure that a set number of people who die in their hospital are on the LCP.
Elsewhere the targets relate to how the pathway is operated or monitored.
Each Trust was asked how many people had died on the LCP over the past three years and how much money received in that period was attached to goals involving it.
Overall 61 of those which responded said that they used the pathway, translating to 85 per cent of the total.
Of those, 62 per cent disclosed that they had either received, or expect to receive, cash rewards for meeting targets associated with the implementation of the pathway. The remainder said they had adopted the LCP without receiving any payments.
Central Manchester University Hospitals - which received £81,000 in 2010 for meeting targets relating to the LCP - said the proportion of patients whose deaths were expected and had been placed on the pathway more than doubled to 87.7 per cent in the past year.
In Berkshire the Heatherwood and Wexham Park Hospitals Trust received more than £1 million over two years for meeting its LCP goals.
Its targets included carrying out an audit of the number of deaths of patients on the LCP as well as having a “meaningful conversation” with the patient themselves but did not set a specific goal for the number of deaths.
Bradford teaching Hospitals, which qualified for CQUIN payments of more than £490,000 in the last two years, has seen the number of patients dying on the pathway more than double to 51 per cent over the last three years.
In Birmingham the Heart of England NHS Foundation Trust disclosed that 38 per cent of patient deaths occurred on the LCP in 2010 and 27 per cent in 2011. It received a CQUIN payment of £603,886 in the financial year 2010-11 alone.
A handful of trusts openly spoke of either hitting or missing targets connected to the LCP in their responses.
Dr Gillian Craig, a consultant geriatrician who was among the first doctors to raise the concerns over the possible flaws of the LCP, described the use of the incentives as “absolutely shocking”.
“I think there should be questions in Parliament as to who instigated this policy and I think the cash payments should be stopped forthwith,” she said.
“You can’t pay people to use a certain protocol that everybody knows to be lethal.”
Dr Phillip Lee, the Tory MP for Bracknell and a former GP, insisted that the pathway did not amount to “euthanasia by the back door”.
“This is about trying to provide appropriate care to someone who is dying,” he said.
“Palliative care specialists are some of the best doctors that this country has.
“Sometimes there are conflicts between doctors and patients’ families but I just cannot believe that there is anybody in the palliative care arena who is trying to anything other than provide the best care for patients.”
Earlier this week the NHS disclosed that it was beginning a review of the operation of the LCP following concerns highlighted in the media. Dying Matters, a coalition of organisations including hospices, has been asked to speak to relatives about their experiences as part of the inquiry.
The Department of Health has consistently stood by the LCP.
Last night a spokesman said: “The Department of Health does not centrally fund any payments for the use of the Liverpool Care Pathway, but local areas may choose to do so in order to improve the care and support given to people in their last days.
“This means patients can be more comfortable and treated with dignity in their final days and hours.
“The Liverpool Care Pathway is supported by more than 20 leading organisations, including Marie Curie Cancer Care and Age UK, as a way to help meet the care and dignity needs for those who are at the end of their life.
“We are clear the Liverpool Care Pathway can only work if each patient is fully consulted, where this is feasible, and their family involved in all aspects of decision-making. Staff must properly communicate with the patient and their family - any failure to do so is unacceptable.”

That sounds like a good care plan doesnt it?



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Then you have obama giving work to immigrants not just immigrants but illegal immigrants.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/oct/31/two-thirds-of-jobs-go-to-immigrants/#.UJJd2_E9JXQ.mailto

Two-thirds of jobs go to immigrants during Obama’s four years

Researchers say legals and illegals are more mobile than natives in America






By Stephen Dinan (http://www.washingtontimes.com/staff/stephen-dinan/)
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The Washington Times
Wednesday, October 31, 2012



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Two-thirds of those who have found employment under President Obama are immigrants, both legal and illegal, according to an analysis that suggests immigration has soaked up a large portion of what little job growth there has been over the past three years.The Center for Immigration Studies (http://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/center-for-immigration-studies/) is releasing the study Thursday morning, a day ahead of the final Labor Department (http://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/united-states-department-of-labor/) unemployment report of the campaign season, which is expected to show a sluggish job market more than three years into the economic recovery.That slow market, combined with the immigration numbers, could explain why Mr. Obama and Republican nominee Mitt Romney (http://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/mitt-romney/) have struggled to find a winning jobs message in some of the country’s hardest-hit postindustrial regions.“It’s extraordinary that most of the employment growth in the last four years has gone to the foreign-born, but what’s even more extraordinary is the issue has not even come up during a presidential election that is so focused on jobs,” said Steven A. Camarota (http://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/steven-a-camarota/), the center (http://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/center-for-immigration-studies/)’s research director, who wrote the report along with demographer Karen Zeigler (http://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/karen-zeigler/).His numbers are stark: Since the first quarter of 2009, the number of immigrants of working age (16 to 65) who are employed has risen 2 million, from 21.2 million to 23.2 million. During the same time, native-born employment has risen just 1 million, to reach 119.9 million.http://media.washtimes.com/media/image/2012/10/31/immigration_s220x312.jpg?329ed278595c2e503bf5d3abf f9f63c449ddb665 (http://www.washingtontimes.com/multimedia/image/immigrationjpg_734807/)
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It’s a trend years in the making: Immigrants are working more, and native-born Americans are working less.In 2000, 76 percent of natives aged 18 to 65 were employed, but that dropped steadily to 69 percent this September. By contrast, immigrants started the last decade at 71 percent employment and rose to a peak of 74 percent at the height of the George W. Bush-era economic boom. They since have slid down to 69 percent amid the sluggish economy.Competitive advantageThe Center for Immigration Studies (http://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/center-for-immigration-studies/), which wants the government to impose stricter limits on immigration, based its numbers on the Census Bureau (http://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/bureau-of-the-census/)’s Current Population Survey.Alex Nowrasteh (http://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/alex-nowrasteh/), a policy analyst at the Cato Institute, which favors letting the markets rather than the government control the flow of immigration, said Mr. Camarota (http://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/steven-a-camarota/)’s numbers are “making a mountain out of a molehill.”He said delving into specific numbers explains why immigrants have done better over the past four years: They generally gravitate toward parts of the economy that have picked up faster in the nascent recovery.“Most of the areas of the U.S. economy that are hiring right now, like agriculture and high-tech industries, are those where immigrants have always been overly represented,” Mr. Nowrasteh (http://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/alex-nowrasteh/) said.He also said immigrants are quicker to jump into the rebounding job market while native-born Americans, who under federal law have more welfare options and access to unemployment benefits, are slower to find work.Mr. Nowrasteh (http://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/alex-nowrasteh/) and Mr. Camarota (http://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/steven-a-camarota/) said another factor could be immigrants’ mobility.Natives have roots wherever they live, and it may take higher wages to get them to move for jobs, even if their homes are in depressed areas. Immigrants already have uprooted themselves and can more easily pick places where jobs are available.Story Continues → (http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/oct/31/two-thirds-of-jobs-go-to-immigrants/?page=2)View Entire Story (http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/oct/31/two-thirds-of-jobs-go-to-immigrants/?page=all#pagebreak)


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This is the worst of the worst.... You likely remember the Katrina aftermath that had all the Bush haters yelling racism and Bush hates black people...Well i guess obama hates New York citizens, New Jersey citizens and Pennsylvania citizens all the same.

obama is taking photo ops after hurricane Sandy and the media declares he is doing such a great job but then this is reported not by Fox but by a local NBC affiliate.

http://nation.foxnews.com/hurricane-sandy/2012/11/02/wheres-obama-sandy-starved-new-yorkers-dumpster-dive#

Fox links local NBC report of people dumpster diving because they are starving with no FEMA or Red Cross in sight for over 3 days.

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11-02-2012, 10:15 PM
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Regina Yahara-Splain cleans out her home after it was damaged by Superstorm Sandy on November 1, 2012 in Highlands, New Jersey. (Andrew Burton/Getty Images/AFP)


As the waters of Sandy recede in the US, the death toll continues to rise, with the total now at 98 as more bodies are being discovered during clean-up operations. Millions are still left without power and victims are beginning to feel ignored.
New York State officials said the local death toll had increased to 41 on Friday, including two boys, age two and four, who were swept away from mother’s arms while stuck in a car amidst floodwaters.

At this point 3.8 million Americans remain without power, including 3.2 million in the states of New Jersey and New York alone. Nearly 400,000 Pennsylvania residents are still suffering from power outages, and a quarter of a million people share their fate in Connecticut. Most other states along the East Coast have had power completely or mostly restored.

One of the hardest-hit regions was New Jersey, with 14 reported deaths. Thousands who have fled their homes to escape the flood are unable to return home due to high water levels and 1.6 million still remain without power there.

Most of the state’s transit system is not functional and gasoline shortage is making it difficult for people to use their own vehicles.

"Literally digging through rubble, we have found some of our exposed, broken pipes with flare-ups on the ends of them," said Micah Rasmussen, a spokesman for New Jersey Natural Gas.

In Hoboken, New Jersey, 20,000 residents became stranded in their homes when the Hudson River broke its banks and flooded parts of the city. Residents were told to stay away from the water, as it was tainted with sewage and chemicals from the area's various industries.

“When the storm hit, it looked like rushing rapids outside. The water was chest-level. Now, three days later, there’s raw sewage and oil in the street. It’s a real health hazard. I saw people walking barefoot,” said local homeowner Deborah Cohen as quoted by France 24.

“A lot of people have left town, because they don’t have heat or electricity. We’ve been flooded before, but this is by far the worst I’ve ever seen. It’s going to be pricey to repair.”
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A sign asking for help from FEMA (Federal Emergency Management Agency) is seen in the BroadChannel section of the Queens borough of New York November 2, 2012. (Reuters/Shannon Stapleton)
In New York, four of the city’s seven subway tunnels were flooded and three still remain underwater. Over a million are still without power and 900,000 of those will remain so until November 11, while Manhattan is said to get its lights back by midnight on Friday.

New York’s Staten Island, which houses 500,000 residents, mostly blue-collar workers, was hit the worst during Sandy, with more than 80,000 residents still without power, many homeless, and at least 19 dead because of the storm.

And only four days after the storm, supplies are making their way to the area. Staten Island Borough President James Molinaro expressed his anger at what he sees as a slow relief effort.

"This is America, not a third world nation. We need food, we need clothing," Molinaro told ABC news.

The Federal Emergency Management Agency's (FEMA) is now shifting focus from search and rescue to power restoration, floodwater pumping operations, providing basic necessities and reaching out to hard-hit communities, reported Washington Post.

However, many of the victims’ frustrations are growing as they feel forgotten about.

Feeling helplessNew York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg announced Thursday that New Yorkers need to have patience with recovery efforts.

"We are desperately trying to help everybody," said Bloomberg. At the same time he stated that NY is fine and will be proceeding with the world’s largest marathon on Sunday, with 40,000 runners participating.

"The city of New York right now is talking about getting water out of the Battery Tunnel and preparing for a marathon,"member of US House of Representatives Michael Grimm told NBC News. "We're pulling bodies out of the water. You see the disconnect here?"

Even elected officials are pleading for more help fast.
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A woman walks along a sidewalk as debris from floodwater-damaged buildings is piled in the streets in Hoboken, New Jersey, November 2, 2012. (Reuters/Gary Hershorn)
Molinaro criticized the Red Cross, calling it an “absolute disgrace” and even asked people to stop donating.

“The first responders came through, but since then no one has been down here," Russell Isak from Staten Island told The Wall Street Journal. "No agency has been down here. Nothing."

The damage is truly grave and estimated at up to $20 billion in insured losses and $50 billion in economic losses, according to disaster modeling company Eqecat.

Insurance Information Institute ranks Sandy as the fourth costliest US disaster, behind Hurricane Katrina in 2005, the September 11, 2001, attacks and Hurricane Andrew in 1992.

Other states suffering significant death tolls were Pennsylvania with 12 and West Virginia with 6.
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A sign is seen outside a home in Long Beach, New York November 2, 2012, warning looters will be shot. (Reuters/Shannon Stapleton)
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Postman Mike Conroy delivers the mail to a pharmacy damaged by floodwaters as postal services resumed in Hoboken, New Jersey, November 2, 2012. (Reuters/Gary Hershorn)

eaglethebeagle
11-02-2012, 10:24 PM
OBAMA OBAMA OBAMA OBAMA come on everyone yell his name loud and praise him he is our savior OBAMA OBAMA OBAMA.....

gazzthompson
11-02-2012, 11:35 PM
Obama and socialism.... Hahaha, fascinating that people can believe such things.

eaglethebeagle
11-03-2012, 12:28 AM
Mother of Benghazi victim "obama murdered my son"


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The families of the four Americans killed in the terrorist attack on the U.S. Mission in Benghazi on Sept. 11 continue to grieve, however, they are also continuing to speak out.
A father and a mother used the word “murder” when discussing the Obama administration’s response to the attack while an older brother of one of the victims is not questioning the decisions made in the heat of battle, UT San Diego reports (https://www.utsandiego.com/news/2012/nov/02/tp-families-differ-on-us-response/?page=2#article).

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State Department computer expert Sean Smith was killed during the terrorist assault on the U.S. Consulate in Libya on Sept. 11. (Photo credit: Department of State)
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Former Navy SEAL Tyrone Woods was one of four Americans killed in the terrorist assault on the U.S. Consulate in Libya on Sept. 11. (Image source: ABC News)
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This undated photo provided by Mary Commanday shows Chris Stevens. Stevens was among four Americans who died Tuesday night, Sept. 11, 2012 in Benghazi after they were attacked by gunfire and rocket-propelled grenades. Stevens’ death deprives the United States of someone widely regarded as one of the most effective American envoys to the Arab world. (Credit: AP)
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Glen Doherty was among the four Americans killed in the attack in Benghazi on Sept. 11, 2012. (Source: FILE)
Patricia Smith, the mother of Sean Smith, a State Department computer wiz killed in the assault, told the paper that she blames President Barack Obama for the death of her son.
“I believe that Obama murdered my son,” she told UT San Diego from the living room of her Clairemont home. “I firmly believe this.”
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Believe it or not, the mother actually voted for Obama in the 2008 election because of her son, Sean, who encouraged her to do so. Sean Smith was reportedly an avid supporter of the president.
Charles Woods, the father of slain former Navy SEAL Tyrone Woods, argues the White House should have made an effort to save the Americans under attack in Benghazi.
“I’m a retired attorney, and I know that these actions legally do not constitute murder. But in my mind the people in the White House, all of them who have authority to send in reinforcements to prevent what they knew was going to be the death of my son, are guilty of murdering my son,” Woods told Fox News’ Sean Hannity on Sunday.
More from UT San Diego (https://www.utsandiego.com/news/2012/nov/02/tp-families-differ-on-us-response/?page=2#article):

The older brother of Glen Doherty, a former Navy SEAL from Encinitas working as a U.S. security contractor, said Doherty and Tyrone Woods were part of the force that responded to the consulate attack.
“They rescued a bunch of people and brought them to the (consulate) annex, and then people defended the annex after Glen and Ty fell. All those people didn’t get overrun and wiped out. They had enough people to fight off that battle,” said Greg Doherty, who lives in Kensington in Northern California.
In that light, Doherty said the debate over needing more help doesn’t make sense to him, unless it might have been U.S. airstrikes against a mortar position used by attackers.
“But then you are getting into real specific strategy, and I don’t think it is civilians’ job to pick apart an actual battle and talk strategy, unless you are a general,” said Doherty, reached by telephone Thursday.
GOP lawmakers and others have criticized for Obama administration for what has been perceived as a lack of transparency in the aftermath of the attack. The White House also spent nearly two weeks blaming an anti-Muslim YouTube video for the attack before eventually admitting that it was a coordinated terrorist attack on the anniversary of 9/11.
Currently, the Obama administration is under the gun and being asked to explain why more resources weren’t sent to Benghazi to save the Americans that were under attack. CBS News reported (http://www.theblaze.com/stories/cbs-sources-key-counterterrorism-task-force-not-convened-during-benghazi-attack/) on Thursday that a key counter-terror task force wasn’t even convened that night.
Former SEAL Brent Gleeson of San Diego said it is questionable whether help might have been able to arrive in time. Additionally, flying in troops from another country would have required ground support.
“Logistically speaking, it’s not as black and white as people are making it sound. It’s not just, call for help and they fly in the reinforcements,” Gleeson said.
“If they fly people in, well great, how are they going to get to the target? They need vehicles. Where from? Unless the vehicles are staged there already, logistically in that situation it’s kind of a nightmare. They weren’t prepared for this, obviously,” he added.
To read UT San Diego’s full report, click here (https://www.utsandiego.com/news/2012/nov/02/tp-families-differ-on-us-response/?page=2#article).
Doherty’s family has created a charitable organization in his name. Details can be found atglendohertyfoundation.org (http://glendohertyfoundation.org/).

mrfrosty
11-03-2012, 07:20 AM
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SATX
11-03-2012, 11:04 AM
My mistake for not getting the drift of your post Mr. Frosty. A good reason not to stay up past midnight making political posts on my part.....:eusa_doh:


Brenden, I get what you're saying but I have wasted my presidential vote twice in the paste on third party candidates. This year is just too critical to America's future to do it again. Like I have said, neither man up for election would have been even my 3rd of 4th choice.

BrendenF11
11-03-2012, 03:01 PM
Eagle all of those articles, with the exception of the health care law, are a reflection of the Republican party as well.

Immigration- I seem to remember a large blanket amnesty from the Bush administration, and have no doubt that Romney will do the same. Withhout looking it up I think the figure was some where around 6 million? As I said, the people that pay these politicians (not the tax payers, but the ones that actually pay them) the corporations want the illegals, why pay me 15 bucks an hour when you can pay an illegal 6.15?


Hurricane Sandy/Hurricane Katrina, same thing! Bueracracy getting in the way of actual help and aid, plus a lot of this falls onto the local and state level leaders as well. They dictate where the aid gets distributed, and FEMA/Red Cross go where they are told.


Benghazi. Well the Iraq war, faulty equipment, equipment not ready for the conflict, not enough troops etc. Also the mishandeling of the war in Afghanistan from 2001-2007. Those two actually costed more lives then I'd care to mention.



The health care law is disgusting as far as I am concerned, the again I do not care for Romney's "plan" either. Health care does need a massive over haul, and the government is going to have to play a role in it whether we like it or not. Health care is so massive it won't be able to manage itself without costs sky rocketing out of control and no one being able to afford any sort of health care. I think a better regulation of the prices, and management at the local level is in order.


Either way, everything you pointed out is exactly the same as what will happen under a republican administration, except the health care will be different. As I said before I would take Hitler over Stalin anyday, but I have a third choice and neither Hitler or Stalin appeals to me.


SATX, I wouldn't call it wasting your vote. I would call it showing your objection to the two parties running for office. I understand what you are saying no doubt. Those third party candidates will not win, but I still feel it gives you a chance to display your disgust on an official level. That way you don't have to get enthralled with those douche bag hipsters that "protest" and end up destroying shit. I like certain things from both candidates, but I can't encourage them to degrade United States citizens freedoms.

jamieooh
11-03-2012, 08:03 PM
back on topic. I just consider this more proof "that birds of a feather flock together"
Look at Barry's friends and and the people he surrounds himself with.