Near miss during air refuel

[Rudebwoy]

http://www.apacheclips.com/boards/vbtube/upload/thumb/738_45679.jpg (http://www.apacheclips.com/boards/vbtube_show.php?tubeid=1492) I have no knowledge whatsoever about flight, so here is someone else's opinion about what happened:
"Do you know why the tanker nosed down? Because of the aerodynamic forces that occur between both aircraft in close proximity. You have what is called a bow wave from the receiver so just after disconnect the AWACs got low and too far forward so when it made a slight nose up correction is caused the pitch in the tanker to nose down cause the near miss. As a former boom I have been in this situation and it is scary.  A breakaway should have been called by the boomer."http://www.apacheclips.com/boards/vbtube/images/play_thread.png (http://www.apacheclips.com/boards/vbtube_show.php?tubeid=1492)

[laxaddict992]

i would have shit my flight suit

[mickk]

1.07 he was fucking something.

[Mel]

i would have shit my flight suit
You got that right.

[neebuz]

nice 1

[Razboj]

Pilot must have great skills and balls of steel to handle situation like this.

[Clodius]

"
laxaddict992

i would have shit my flight suit"

I shit my mouse pad...

[HooterBro]

OMG! I've done plenty of AR's and they always worried me. Not only due to possible pilot error, like when we first got our MH-60K's and we were doing AR training, but turbulence since we had to fly much lower and slower than the big boys. Doing it at night on a mission over water in the winter and being 1/3 into our reserves makes for one nervous stick!

We were in a mixed refuel formation when an MH-47E clipped the first three feet of its refuel probe off the aircraft. Had I of taken my last picture five seconds later, I would of caught it on film. They managed to land without issue, but the FE told me later at the debriefing that he thought the Combining G/B had gone out and the blades were hitting each other as they shut down. He said the vibration was so bad, he chipped his front teeth. Sure enough, he smiles and both of his front teeth and one lower tooth is chipped and cracked.

[CuChi]

This happened about a month ago. Plane is a Nato E3-AWACS attempting to refuel with a Boeing KC-135 Strato-Tanker. Initial blame is being put on the AWACS pilot attempting to refuel before stabilising. The descent 'pulled' -2G and caused injuries to the crew and damage to the AWACS.
Don't know how bad, but if anyone wasn't strapped in it would have been nasty.
HooterBro - respect mate, I have never been in a plane getting refuelled and never will!

[gutro]

Jeeeeesus, I paused it at 0:40... I have never seen a near miss THAT near. At first I thought the near miss was when to boom retracted because of the turbulence, but damn... I think my hear literally skipped a beat.

[Check6]

I have about 4000 hours on AWACS and God knows how many behind the boom. The boom has a BFD , Brute Force Disconnect, that separates the boom from the boom receptacle in the event of the too high a closure rate. The boom operator calls BREAKAWAY. Tanker crew applies power and climbs, receiver crew idle power nose down. That is the closest to a collision I think Ive ever seen. There are boom strikes or breakages once in a while. Over Iraq in 2000 my copilot snapped a six foot piece of boom of do to a bad closure rate, we flew back to Saudi Arabia and landed like a unicorn. To CuChi, there is a pre-contact position used first, receiver calls stable, boomer confirms stable and clears contact. Receiver then moves pre-contract to contact position. So the boom wouldn't him to contact unless he was stable pre. Shit went sideways as they closed, I think they left the trottle up a second to long after clearing the bow wave.