WORLD WAR III very near!!!

[eaglethebeagle]

Islamic world must have nuclear weapons, says Iran



Islamic world must have nuclear weapons, says Iran

Iran is now telling the world that in order to confront aggression from America and Israel, it must have nuclear weapons.
Official Iranian media outlets published a commentary Sunday titled “The necessity for the Islamic world to have the atomic bomb,” laying the groundwork for Iran’s refusal to accept limits on its illicit nuclear program.
The essay’s author, Alireza Forghani, is the former governor of southern Iran’s Kish Province and an analyst and a strategy specialist in the camp of the supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei.
“The fatwa from Imam Khomeini [the founder of Iran's Islamic revolution] said ‘all Islamic countries have Islamic blood,’” Forghani wrote. “Therefore the Islamic world should rise up and shout that a nuclear bomb is our right, and disrupt the dreams of America and Israel.”
“Having a nuclear bomb is our right,” he argued. “Israel would have been destroyed completely 30 years ago” but has survived because it has nuclear weapons. (RELATED: Complete coverage of developments in Iran)
In February, Forghani laid out the legal case for the annihilation of Israel and all Jewish people. That treatise, which ran in all the Iranian regime’s media outlets, openly called for a pre-emptive strike on Israel.
Among the state-run media carrying Forghani’s new piece — which argues that Iran should have an atomic bomb – is the major outlet Fars News Agency, which is run by the Revolutionary Guards and thus represents the views of the Islamic regime.
“The Islamic republic, after the victory of the 1979 revolution, faced a hard reality of its enemies trying to overthrow the only true Islamic republic in the world,” he wrote. “The enemies of the Islamic republic of Iran, headed by America with cooperation by its European allies and some in Asia — [and] using the tools such as the United Nations, other international organizations and NATO — have continuously pursued their goal of overthrowing the … government.”
America is the main enemy of Iran, Forghani argued, and is the only country that has used the atomic bomb and brags about its nuclear arsenal, creating fear in nations that might want to challenge it.
“Why is it that only those carrying water for America must have the bomb? Why is it that Pakistan can be the only Islamic country to have the bomb? Until when should the Islamic world remain afraid and obey America?” Forghani demanded to know.
Syrian and Lebanese Muslims have to constantly worry that if their governments do not cooperate with America or Israel, “NATO’s bastard soldiers will attack them,” he added.
“The Islamic republic is one country that is surely threatened by America. We have experienced their failed attacks before, and there is no doubt that it will attack Iran, which it calls the center of all evil,” Forghani wrote. “We might be able to confront America with asymmetrical warfare, but how far will that take Iran? There is no guarantee that if things heat up America will not use its nuclear arsenal against Iran just as it has done before [in Japan].”
Forghani recalled the Cold War’s “Mutual Assured Destruction” policy that kept the United States from bombing the Soviet Union. If Iran had nuclear weapons now, he reasoned, America could not do to Iran what it has done to Iraq and Afghanistan.
Negotiations between Iran and six world powers have so far failed. Iran refuses to suspend nuclear enrichment and won’t allow inspection of suspected sites, even as it insists that the only solution to the dilemma is for the West to accept a nuclear Iran. The Islamic regime continues, meanwhile, to warn that any foreign aggression will result in a devastating counterattack.
In a clear indication that Iran might either have a bomb or be close to developing it, Forghani wrote, “Imam Khamenei has stated that with whatever arms they attack us, we will respond similarly. The need for having the atomic bomb in order to respond to any aggression is now.”
Officials in the Islamic regime, including its supreme leader and military commanders, have promised the “full annihilation of Israel” and the demise of America. “We’re still on a hillside,” Khamenei said in a recent speech. “When the Iranian nation reaches the peak, all enmities [and] evils will end.”
In a separate blog article, Forghani quoted the Quran, An-Nisa 74: “Let those fight in the cause of Allah who sell the life of this world for the hereafter. To him who fights in the cause of Allah — whether he is slain or gets victory — soon shall we give him a reward of great value.”
Reza Kahlili is a pseudonym for a former CIA operative in Iran’s Revolutionary Guards and the author of the award-winning book “A Time to Betray.” He is a senior Fellow with EMPact America, a member of the Task Force on National and Homeland Security and teaches at the U.S. Department of Defense’s Joint Counterintelligence Training Academy (JCITA).
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I dont buy any claim iran is talking shit to pump up gas prices that has played out and the fact russia is shooting ICBMs around speaks to me about what is next.


http://dailycaller.com/2012/06/10/islamic-world-must-have-nuclear-weapons-says-iran/

[atrox6661]

Good, about time this shit kicked off.

[eaglethebeagle]

Good, about time this shit kicked off.

Hey if we are not going to mess around with traditional war then nukes will be a quick death no fooling around. Maybe enough time for someone to quick take the video, upload it before the blast wave hits them and for us furthest from it to see it posted, give it 5 stars, thumbs up a few comments then soon it is all over.

[atrox6661]

There is already enough country's that have nukes and hate us, Luckily the only country that can even reach us with a nuke is Russia. Pakistan already has nukes and they are not even capable of hitting US Soil. The only country at risk of being nuked over there is Israel and maybe some eastern/southern European country's.

Besides if it does kick off we can take care of this Muslims extremest crap once and for all we will never do it by taking one country at a time as you can see in Afghanistan the rats just keep coming from other country's.

[goinloco1]

Hell, lets just give them one... he he

[Stark]

Hell, lets just give them one... he he

lol its the equivalent of giving a child a lighter and say - don't burn yourself now!!

[goinloco1]

ehh, just build it using all black wiring and the buttons mixed up and let them figure it out. I'd predict a big boom within a short time...

[ErisKillton]

I like how they say it's "their right" to have one.... Mother fuckers its my right to not keep my face covered in your shithole countries! Fuck you and your rights.

Let's just nip this shit in the bus right now and give them what they want. A nuke right up their asses.

Retards.

[Toki]

Eagle, you are making mountains out of mole hills. Get a grip on yourself. Panicking ass, you are. This is like you and that Russian ICBM thread.

http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120213055636/uncyclopedia/images/5/52/Double-facepalm.jpg

[eaglethebeagle]

Eagle, you are making mountains out of mole hills. Get a grip on yourself. Panicking ass, you are. This is like you and that Russian ICBM thread.

http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120213055636/uncyclopedia/images/5/52/Double-facepalm.jpg


Panicking fuck yes I am panicking!!! Have you been paying attention to who the powers that be who are controlling our most powerful nations? Your not the brightest crayon in the box toki but I expected better from you and thought you have an opinion worth something in this for us all. What is your brilliant thoughts about our current state of affairs? The British PM is so fucking dumb he forgets his own child at pub.

obama is so fucking dumb he allows leaks of his "secret" cyber war on iran then his puppet panetta states that if another country would do this to us it would be an act of war. So has obama just admitted he has started a war?

He is so fucking dumb he wouldn't know.

Putin shoots off ICBMs and scares the shit out of his neighboring countries but he complains about a missile defense system being implaced in Europe. Why can he not understand the logic?

China russia both support a dictator systematically killing his entire populace in syria. Yet we as a world should not be concerned why because it is only nasty dirty muslims being exterminated?

You should try harder and offer something from your space between your ears everyone is very interested toki.

[Toki]

tl;dr

Your psychopathic ranting proves nothing, other than feeding your self-delusions. Maybe getting some fresh air after your hourly jerkfests to Glenn Beck will clear your mind.

[serpa6]

tl;dr

Your psychopathic ranting proves nothing, other than feeding your self-delusions. Maybe getting some fresh air after your hourly jerkfests to Glenn Beck will clear your mind.
Sorry but that is some funny shit
Eagle Rebuttal :)

[rocky5544]

This sounds like a bunch of Ron Paultard nonsense. If they have nukes or if they do get nukes has no bearing on the start of a world war. We were more than capable of starting two previous world wars without nukes and have been able to avoid any further world wars when most countries have the nuke including some real nutjob countries.

Iran getiing nukes is not going to be the catalyst to world war nor is having dumbass leaders (Obama being a great example). We have had many a dumbass leader over the last 50 years and catastrophe has not broken out.

World war may come or it even most likely may occur, but the Paultard screams about Iran have little to no bearing on if and when it happens. It is OK folks, lose the tin foil, enjoy the sunshine, have a beer and brat, the sky is not quite falling and armegeddon will not happen as soon as Iran gets the Nuke. I promise you have a few days left to enjoy life without having to worry about chaos or chem trails. We stand more of a chance ending up in World War 3 by going into defense mode and sticking our nose in Iranian business than we do just ignoring them. They are POS there, but they are not stupid. They know the power Israel possesses and that the moment they attack, they will have only minutes before their shithole country is turned into dust from Israeli rockets.

[eaglethebeagle]

This sounds like a bunch of Ron Paultard nonsense. If they have nukes or if they do get nukes has no bearing on the start of a world war. We were more than capable of starting two previous world wars without nukes and have been able to avoid any further world wars when most countries have the nuke including some real nutjob countries.

Iran getiing nukes is not going to be the catalyst to world war nor is having dumbass leaders (Obama being a great example). We have had many a dumbass leader over the last 50 years and catastrophe has not broken out.

World war may come or it even most likely may occur, but the Paultard screams about Iran have little to no bearing on if and when it happens. It is OK folks, lose the tin foil, enjoy the sunshine, have a beer and brat, the sky is not quite falling and armegeddon will not happen as soon as Iran gets the Nuke. I promise you have a few days left to enjoy life without having to worry about chaos or chem trails. We stand more of a chance ending up in World War 3 by going into defense mode and sticking our nose in Iranian business than we do just ignoring them. They are POS there, but they are not stupid. They know the power Israel possesses and that the moment they attack, they will have only minutes before their shithole country is turned into dust from Israeli rockets.

I dont follow your post until the very end. So I will say I agree with your last point. If Iran ever does get the bomb and if they ever decide to launch it then before it touches down in Israel Israel will launch every single nuke they possibly can back at Iran and possibly a few other nations for shits and giggles as they know they are dust.


@tok and @ Serpa

getting trolled by mods is not really something I would like to extend. I replied with a sincere response to him and he baited with the jerking to Glenn Beck comment. I guess unless your opinion is the same as tok or serpa they now troll and bait you.


Now if I am allowed to be a cunt licker and respond to him with insults and so forth without threats of being timed out then I would be happy to do so. So I am just giving the mods respect unless back here now its a free for all and the gloves are off for everyone?

[Sixx]

Go ahead Eagle, I think you'll be ok :)
Fair is fair right?



:D



Tell me you don't watch Glenn Beck though....... :)
I'd like to beat the Birkenstocks off of his Mormon ass.

ooops, you aren't Mormon are you eagle?
My bad if you are. Muhahaha

[Sixx]

@ Rocky


Hey dumbass......
Learn the true meaning of "paultard" before throwing the word around so freely.

I'm thinking you are the one that lives on GLP & ATS.
GTFO or post an insult that makes sense.


It's like me accusing Gazz of being a GW Bush fanboi radical Christian conservative.......



Crying wolf is not just limited to paultards btw.

[eaglethebeagle]

Go ahead Eagle, I think you'll be ok :)
Fair is fair right?



:D



Tell me you don't watch Glenn Beck though....... :)
I'd like to beat the Birkenstocks off of his Mormon ass.

ooops, you aren't Mormon are you eagle?
My bad if you are. Muhahaha

I have watched Glenn Beck as likely anyone who ever watched CNN has or Fox. I havnt watched him much other than a few times. Jerking off to him no that isnt my thing. I have 5 kids ages 20 years old to 9 months old. So I have been having sex for a long time. Toki looks from the photo he has posted here in forums to be the same age as my 20 year old. So I know from being that age too how it is. How do you say it "young dumb and full of cum" and you think you know everything and your shit dont stink.

I have been there and now I have a 20 year old boy who acts like this. The world is always changing and things are always movng. The history of the world promises without a doubt there will be more wars until we as mankind destroy ourselves.

[eaglethebeagle]

Oh and yes the paultard thing would not be me. Ron Paul was pro marijuana legislation and Sixx and others know that isnt my stance. So rocky giving you some respect despite your lack of time posting here and not knowing me anymore than you know Keith Oberman there you go brother.

[brightgoo]

Does Glenn Beck wear Birks....? HaHa I really did, in all seriousness, like his book "Argueing with Idiots". Page turner

[Ronaldflanagan]

Glenn Beck is an entertainer. Having said that, anyone that pisses off liberals so much they get frothy at the mouth just hearing his name is alright in my book. And what exactly do you have against Mormon's? I get the feeling that Psychosixx knows very little about Glenn Beck and even less about Mormons.

[Sixx]

Glenn Beck is an entertainer. Having said that, anyone that pisses off liberals so much they get frothy at the mouth just hearing his name is alright in my book. And what exactly do you have against Mormon's? I get the feeling that Psychosixx knows very little about Glenn Beck and even less about Mormons.


For one, I'm not a liberal. I dislike most liberal views tbh
Glenn Beck is a nonfactor. A man that cries on TV? No thank you.

What do I have against Mormons? Nothing really.
But I'm not a fan of cults. It was founded in the 1800's.
God selected and raised Joseph Smith as a prophet. (In today's times....I would be deemed insane if I claimed to be a prophet)
Jesus came to the United States to preach the gospel.
Depending on who is telling the story, God was once a mortal man and that man can become a God through mormonism
polygamy/polyandry/underaged brides
Jesus Christ practiced Polygamy
Depending on the church/temple--racist views against black/dark skinned people


Why was Joseph Smith murdered again Ronald?
How come nobody reputable saw those 'Golden Plates'? Did an Angel really retrieve them from Smith? Or did he return them to Cumorah? Where is Cumorah again? Where is the cave?
I really enjoy the way he translated the plates. it's quite comical.
Sure.......
I'll raise the BS flag to that.
Sounds like a bunch of fuckery to me.



I know very little?
I can go on and on.....
But of course someone will say I am wrong and I'm spreading lies against Mormons.



And some of you hate on Islam.

[Ronaldflanagan]

Im sorry my friend but it's obvious from what you wrote that your knowledge of Mormons is very limited indeed. I'd say to the degree of about a pamphlet or two. You say its silly to have a modern prophet. Funny thing is the people said the same thing in Moses' day. Joseph Smith was murdered when he willingly put himself under the protection of the governor of Illinois because he believed in the rule of law and not lynch mobs. So im not sure what your alluding to there. What exactly do you find so repulsive in Mormon teachings? Is it that we have an unpaid clergy that works and serves for free? Perhaps our teachings on family values are offensive to you? Maybe our beliefs in personal integrity, truth, honor, respect, freedom and patriotism to ones country etc.? The Book of Mormon has been around 180 years now surely you have some damning evidence in there that you can provide as to its invalidity. Have you even read it? Mormons are great people when you get past all the lies told about them.

[Sixx]

180 years....that makes it all even more believable huh?

Go ahead. Debunk everything I posted.


Instead of the typical defensive hogwash.

Was David koresh a real prophet?
Is the Church of Scientology legitimate in your eyes?
How about Islam?

I don't buy Joseph Smith's stories. I'm sorry.

Not everyone agrees with other religious beliefs or religion itself.
Don't get mad. You asked and I answered.....I really don't care much for getting in to religious discussions.
We all know the outcome. Due to diversity(or unwilling to accept diversity) and various convictions we leave this thread all pissed off.

And just to let you know I spent quite a few years under the care of a Mormon family that was in the military as a kid. Almost all my teachers were Mormon. They were all great caring people...with values.

That is not my issue.

[Ronaldflanagan]

As to your accusations let me correct a few:
What does it matter when a religion was founded. Shouldnt it be judged by what it teaches?

God did select Joseph Smith as a prophet, just as he selected every other true prophet. A man cannot just go to a religious school and receive a certificate. He has to have been selected by God and given authority to act in his name. Like Abraham,Moses, etc.

Jesus did come to the new world to teach his children on this side of the ocean. In John 10:16 Jesus tells his disciples he is leaving to visit his "other sheep". When europeans arrived in the new world the natives accepted them with open arms because they had legends that a white bearded god would return one day. A god the natives called Quetzlcoatl.

A man can become like God by following the tenets of Mormonsim. Jesus said "Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father in Heaven is perfect. Matthew 5:48

polygamy is practiced all over the bible. If you are a christian and believe in the bible you shouldnt have a problem with it. The mormon church currently teaches that marriage is between one man and one woman. When you say underage marriages i believe you are confusing mormons with another religion.

Polygamy was practiced in many parts of the world during Jesus' lifetime. No one knows for sure if he did or not but it wouldnt be surprising if he did.

The mormon church is not racist against black or dark skinned people and believe all men and women are children of god regardless of color. We believe a man should be judged by the content of his character not his skin color.

Actually other people did see the plates. 10 witnesses saw and examined them and 3 others saw them in the presence of an angel. All of those people signed documents stating that what they saw was true and real and none of them ever recanted their story.

As to your belief that the plates were translated in a comical way. There is much false information out there. The church has many enemies precisely because it is such a force for good in the world.

If you are truly interested in learning about the church from the source i would direct you to wwwdotmormondotorg. There is more information out there to be tested and weighed. The beautiful part about the church is you dont have to take my word for it. You can find out for yourself. We dont fear information or truth because we know we are on the right side of it.

[Ronaldflanagan]

I understand the distaste for talking about religion especially over an internet forum. I do however attempt to confront false information or when i think someone is speaking in an ignorant or biased fashion. You seemed to be almost disgusted by mormons in your earlier posts. I was simply trying to point out to you that you may have heard much false or inaccurate information about the religion. Whether you are brave enough to search all information no matter where it comes from is up to you.

[Ronaldflanagan]

No, David Koresh was not a true prophet as anyone with even a rudimentary understanding of the bible or even a somewhat intact sense of right and wrong shouldve been able to see.

I have taken an indepth look at both islam and the church of scientology and i have come to learn that both religions believe things that i simply could not accept. The most important being that L. Ron Hubbard was not a prophet of God. Also even with a very quick glance it was obvious to me that many of the core tenets of the religion were in direct oppostion to what i felt was right.

As for Islam, firstly there are many branches and so there are some that i have not had the chance to study much. I have read the koran though and i've taken liberty to learn about the major divisions such as Sunni,Shiite,Wahabism,Sufism etc. Needless to say there was much in the Koran that did not line up with what i felt was right. Some of the worst of it I did notice was added by later teachers of Islam. However I would leave it up to the individual student as to whether it was truly a book dictated by God or simply a collection Muhammads revelations and teachings. The most damning piece of information is again that Islam does not have a modern true prophet. Hence why the religion has been turned down so many false paths.

[gazzthompson]

mormans?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Gm6JYFdnD8

[eaglethebeagle]

That I will agree with .... arguing religion and politics is as productive as slamming your face into a brick wall. There is no way you are going to convert someone to your faith or political stance here.

Gazz why haven't you argued in favor of islam recently? You were such an expert of islam not so long ago. You could google up your knowledge like no ones business back in the day.

[gazzthompson]

Gazz why haven't you argued in favor of islam recently? You were such an expert of islam not so long ago. You could google up your knowledge like no ones business back in the day.

I don't argue in favor of islam, I argue against stupidity and idiotic comments. Most of which come out of the wood work when Christians get all high and mighty about how their religion might not be as shit and bullshit violent as another.

[Scott]

can't you guy's just shut the fuck up, watch the military porn that is brought here and all get along? Arguements get you know where, bitch fighting is for laughs, fist fighting is manning up and sorting out your problems, no you either go smoke some skunk and chill the fuck out, or you can go get some beers and down them, what's it gonna be?

nahh seriously, carry on i like listening to all this bullshit you guy's post :D

[Sixx]

That I will agree with .... arguing religion and politics is as productive as slamming your face into a brick wall. There is no way you are going to convert someone to your faith or political stance here. .


But yet you come here and argue both on a regular basis.
:)

Since you are so keen on dogging Islam(not that I have a problem with it. I do not like them either)
Answer me this...
Eagle do you believe Joseph Smith's stories are true? Try to use an Intellectual point of view.
Simple question. Please do not evade.

[eaglethebeagle]

First I said both are useless to argue but debate or discussion is kind of what this website is set up for. So If we all just sat around with our finger in our ass agreeing with one another and jerking off to dubstep like tokenvi this place would be a boring fail rather quick.

I could give a shit about Jeseph Smith it has nothing to do with me. Mormons to me are the equilibrium to the islamic fucks. You have islam that allows 4 wives and you have mormons that can have mutliple wives. I say more power to the mormons since they are at least on our side not looking to behead anyone for not being mormon.

I do come on here and talk politics and about how I think islam is a fucking joke.

Shit what would a friendly site about the war on terrorism be without either of those issues? Politics fucking has 100% to do with military issues from spending, or spending cuts if your obama to foreign policy that relates to who we go to war with and why.

Islam has really never shown me how it is the faith of peace. IT is not a religion as it is not seperate from state or political influence. Sharia law is an islamic application which of course includes politics and government does it not?

I think I could come here and not talk about politics like I have plenty of times. Shit I run my mouth about Florida being a shithole and I have Serpa6 all agitated with that opinion. ITs rather funny just how much attention I seem to be getting for just doing nothing but having an opinion.

[gazzthompson]

.........I could give a shit.....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXJHip7Su5o

[Sixx]

@ Eagle

Wow, what an Intellectual viewpoint.

Serpa and Toki have nothing to do with what I asked you. I cannot force them to like you.


I asked you a simple question.
How come you cannot answer? I know I cannot force you...but God damn.
You say Islam is a fake religion. Mohammed was a false prophet and a pedophile.

How come you won't discus other fake religions? Afraid of losing imaginary friends on this site? Who cares....they don't know you nor do they pay your bills.


I'm tired of hypocrisy. Do you not see it?
It really makes all of you look silly. I'm sure that's why a lot of people clown you Eagle.

I suggest you do some real research there buddy. Don't take the word of some LDS apologist.
Mormons are not real conservatives.....even though they claim to be so. I've seen democrats that were more conservative than Mormons. Having decent family values doesn't mean you are truly conservative.

Joseph Smith and Mormons have nothing to do with you?
Ahem....you are voting for Romney right?



Think outside the friggin' box eagle.

Are Mormons really on our side?
http://1857massacre.com/


I'll refrain from this subject now.
You are a free man, you have a brain....I'm sure you can figure it out for yourself.

I'm not a hater because I am critical of various religions. I'm not trying to convert people or turn people away from their religious beliefs.
We do live in America and have the right to choose how we worship(or not) and express our opinions.

[Sixx]

Also Eagle, in regards to Serpa and Toki....why not dish it back?
Surely there has to be others that rub you raw as well....

What about Clodius? How about me? Surely I piss you off :)

This is the Ol' Painless section of the forums. Do what you have to do......
I doubt you will be banned.

[serpa6]

@Eagle bro where do I start here
Ok, so you think I hate you!! Then why in hell's name I have not put you in a State of Ban. Did anyone every threaten to ban you from these forums NO
FrontPage is very different then the forums, you know that you have a brain no matter what size it is. I have always said that every members opinion's are valued and I don't give 2 shits less of what your fucking paranoid mind fuck game's you play with the people. I do not give a fuck Obama You Romney or any one else you think is trying to do to this country. I am a Vet and there will be no military take over So fuck off with your delusional thoughts that you have of this. Plus no launches from Russia or any other country If so then Glass parking lots all around. You say you hate CNN Fox and all the news stations Where the hell you get your info from you got an inside connection to the CIA NSA MI6 What??
You say Florida is a shit hole I beg to differ. I have no clue If you think that the state you live in is a shithole if so leave. Plus don't give me the shit you cant because your family is to big, you will know the size of mine when you read the next thing I have to say to you I did it and I am disabled and moved 1100 miles from the shithole i lived in, you see that is what people do, they don't like where they are living they leave that place its called relocating.
You point out you are a Father well buddy in case you did not know I am one to with children ranging from 32 to 14 plus a grandchild that is 2 plus I worked in a center for drug addicted and homeless children, so don't try to be an expert on children or grown adults.
Some of what you post is very interesting I like it but What you need is shock threarpy or get off your ass and get a life.
Do not think this is a personal attack it what I think of you now.
and dont worry about a ban the gloves are off with you buddy also,
Take note I talking about you and said you where a pretty decent guy in chat But buddy I don't know what the fuck you do when type you threads but I think you go into deep thought about all this,like the statue of the thinker, also you talk is some what intelligent But what they say about being a genius and being insane is a very thin line I think you have crossed that line in some point in time Hence the shock therapy or yellow pages FLORIDA IS A BIG STATE look up doctor you need one
Serpa

[Ronaldflanagan]

What a load of bs Psychosixx. Mountain meadows massacre really? 1857. Got anything from this century or even the last maybe? That massacre was not perpetrated by the church as dozens of historians have shown. I guess the catholic church condones murder then since some of its members kill people and just happen to be catholic. And what do you mean by Joseph Smith's stories? Are you referring to the Book of Mormon? Or his revelations. You are right its hard to debate and prove what really happened to him but what can be easily done is study what teachings a religion propagates and see if those teachings are beneficial to mankind or hurtful. So please show me which teachings of the church you think are hurtful or destructive or unbeneficial to society in general. I take it you werent brave enough to visit mormondotorg. You should really check your resources. That website you posted is about as false biased and unscholarly as it gets. Did you even read that website lol here is a little snippet "In all honesty I have to point out that I do not believe the massacre was a religous act..." rofl I'm all for being objective to religions, as I said Mormons do not fear that because we believe we have the truth on our side. You need to be a little more brave and expand your knowledge base a bit. Try learning about the religion from its source. Although i get the feeling you are just trolling me. btw eagle I respect many of your opinions but currently Mormons can only legally have one wife.

[Sixx]

What a load of bs Psychosixx. Mountain meadows massacre really? 1857. Got anything from this century or even the last maybe? That massacre was not perpetrated by the church as dozens of historians have shown. I guess the catholic church condones murder then since some of its members kill people and just happen to be catholic. And what do you mean by Joseph Smith's stories? Are you referring to the Book of Mormon? Or his revelations. You are right its hard to debate and prove what really happened to him but what can be easily done is study what teachings a religion propagates and see if those teachings are beneficial to mankind or hurtful. So please show me which teachings of the church you think are hurtful or destructive or unbeneficial to society in general. I take it you werent brave enough to visit mormondotorg. You should really check your resources. That website you posted is about as false biased and unscholarly as it gets. Did you even read that website lol here is a little snippet "In all honesty I have to point out that I do not believe the massacre was a religous act..." rofl I'm all for being objective to religions, as I said Mormons do not fear that because we believe we have the truth on our side. You need to be a little more brave and expand your knowledge base a bit. Try learning about the religion from its source. Although i get the feeling you are just trolling me. btw eagle I respect many of your opinions but currently Mormons can only legally have one wife.

Trolling?
STFU

I made a comment about about glenn beck's mormon ass.

You got butthurt and started trolling me.
How the hell did I know that you were Mormon prior to that?

You asked me a question and I gave you an answer. How is that trolling?

If you cannot take criticism when it comes to your religion then do not get involved in a discussion.
You shouldn't get pissy with me. You act like I'm the only one that doesn't believe in your religion and sees it as make believe.

I'm sorry I offended you.
But that's life. You cannot expect everyone to believe in everything.

I can pretty much destroy all of your comments. You think the only legitimate source of info is from mormon.org? That would be like watching state ran TV....you think Mormons are just going to say to all the critics "yeah you guys are right"
C'mon man.

It's cool though. I'm done....you win.
You are absolutely right. I am totally wrong.
Mormonism is the only true religion.
You have me convinced, I'm going to convert now.

When do we get to drink the punch?

Mr.Robot

[Ronaldflanagan]

I wasnt trying to convert you. I simply saw you making comments that showed you have little to no knowledge about the church I happen to belong to. And im not offended just a little let down. I thought you might have some thought provoking anti mormon material that i could read and study unfortunately you just had the same tired old comments that anyone that hasnt spent more than 5 minutes reading about the church has. You have been lied to im sorry to say and i don't have the energy or motivation to help you find correct information in that area. It's readily available to anyone that has even a sliver of an open mind. It's obvious you dont want a discussion. Besides the argument is over when the other person has to resort to name calling and insults.

[serpa6]

Ron
We do not solicit any religious forms here this is a military website and also shock and Awe SO with that being said please Take your religion and go to the appropriate website and spuw your book on them. This will be a hint I have read your threads and you talk about religion in everyone single one. If you want to talk about the subjects at hand then so be it, but i have read the comments I know a few Mormons and they think and act just like you.
There religion is the only one in the world and if you are a Mormon you will be saved Please I am being nice Stay if you wish but keep you soliciting of religion out of the Forums
Thanks
Serpa6

[Ronaldflanagan]

If I solicited my religion then I apologize. He said things that are false, I simply directed him to the source where he could get correct information. Going to the church website doesnt make you a mormon. It's simply a place where information about the church's beliefs and practices can be found at the source. Are you afraid of information? And besides I thought these forums were supposed to be a more open place anyways where the "rules" were more relaxed. Also regarding your comments you sound immensely biased as well. You've met a few mormons as well so you know how we all are? I mean wow, talk about close minded individuals. Spew my book? Are you afraid of books now? Try thinking outside of your box to use the words of Psychosixx.

[serpa6]

I am Catholic and the Mormon church websites are for that discussion you do not see me putting out my religion on this site do you If i was you I would do the same and i am not afraid of information on having 6 or 7 wives and only fucking for the sake of reciprocation and i do think outside the box not like you narrow minded shit bags that try to push religion as the no1 subject in the world there is that good enough for you
Dammit i just burnt myself on my bong Well off to go fuck what are you doing right now Trollster

[eaglethebeagle]

@ Eagle

Wow, what an Intellectual viewpoint.

Serpa and Toki have nothing to do with what I asked you. I cannot force them to like you.


I asked you a simple question.
How come you cannot answer? I know I cannot force you...but God damn.
You say Islam is a fake religion. Mohammed was a false prophet and a pedophile.

How come you won't discus other fake religions? Afraid of losing imaginary friends on this site? Who cares....they don't know you nor do they pay your bills.


I'm tired of hypocrisy. Do you not see it?
It really makes all of you look silly. I'm sure that's why a lot of people clown you Eagle.

I suggest you do some real research there buddy. Don't take the word of some LDS apologist.
Mormons are not real conservatives.....even though they claim to be so. I've seen democrats that were more conservative than Mormons. Having decent family values doesn't mean you are truly conservative.

Joseph Smith and Mormons have nothing to do with you?
Ahem....you are voting for Romney right?



Think outside the friggin' box eagle.

Are Mormons really on our side?
http://1857massacre.com/


I'll refrain from this subject now.
You are a free man, you have a brain....I'm sure you can figure it out for yourself.

I'm not a hater because I am critical of various religions. I'm not trying to convert people or turn people away from their religious beliefs.
We do live in America and have the right to choose how we worship(or not) and express our opinions.

No you bring up a good point Sixx. I have a clear understanding why certain members talk shit with me. gazz cloduis are both anti religion. I know they stand for their belief in nothing. I have had shit storms with gazz on islam and you know what I am talking about on the frontpage easily over a year or two now. He thinks he knows all about islam yet he is an athiest. That is the brilliant type of debate we have had before.

With regard to toki and serpa I think they both are pro weed and since I have a view that is not the same it pisses them off. You are better at not taking things personal and just shooting the shit around.

I honestly have a half ass non serious take on the world including the world war 111 post.


I just honestly like to see what other peoples opinions are about current events.


I may run my mouth about all kinds of shit but I am no different than anyone else.

I cant with all my heart get into some shit talk fest with toki or serpa because when someone just out of the blue comes at me with insults it leaves me limp like a pecker in the freezer room.

I cant recall the last time I communicated with toki on anything so his anger at me at to this point is just funny.

He can do all his childish gilbert grape pranks like he has I view him as a kid.

Serpa I am not trying to be an asshole but in the most sincerest of request use a period or break up your sentences it would help. It is run on after run on and I frankly dont feel like reading your post 2 or 3 times to decipher them.


There are multiple Christian denominations , Catholics, baptist, Lutheren, etc. I dont care what denomination someone is as long as they are not muslim.

I know there are muslim members possibly USarmy, HBK others but until they post a thread explaining how their islam works I cant read their minds.

[serpa6]

Serpa I am not trying to be an asshole but in the most sincerest of request use a period or break up your sentences it would help. It is run on after run on and I frankly dont feel like reading your post 2 or 3 times to decipher them.

You don't have to try you are one!!!!

[Clodius]

Eagle. There are many different levels of education, not to mention the English as a second language people, but do you not think your comment about punctuation was a little elitist? Perhaps Serpa was divinely inspired to place his punctuation marks to annoy you?

[ErisKillton]

Whether one religion is better or worse than another religion is irrelevant at this point, religion itself will cause WWIII in one way or another.

It already blew up this thread.

[gazzthompson]

They all worship the same god, the same thousand year old tales of middle eastern goat fuckers hallucinating about angel's, Jewish carpenters and other ridiculous bullshit. It's hilarious, and pathetic. Yet they kill each other constantly about it, I kinda hope there is another crusade... Christians and Muslims killing each other, brilliant .

[eaglethebeagle]

They all worship the same god, the same thousand year old tales of middle eastern goat fuckers hallucinating about angel's, Jewish carpenters and other ridiculous bullshit. It's hilarious, and pathetic. Yet they kill each other constantly about it, I kinda hope there is another crusade... Christians and Muslims killing each other, brilliant .

It is happening already did you miss the memo? terrorism: muslims killing Christians(9/11,wtc1993,London bombing,Madrid bombing,etc etc) Astan war, Iraq war, current covert ops Christians killing muslims. Is that accurate or no I am wrong?

Do you think people who have no faith and no pride in their country sign up to risk dying for nothing?

[gazzthompson]

No faith in god? That's irrelevant. No pride? No, they probably wouldn't. But the two have no relationship.

[brightgoo]

I will be voting for Romney b/c of his capitalistic experience in turning bad money into good money. Which America deperately needs, after letting a communist community organizer (with not even as much as cashiers experience) have a go at it.
If I was voting on religions, Romney would still win, b/c at least Mormons dont spew hate and racism, as Obamas religion of Black Liberation Theology does; which is really a soft sister, of certain factions of Islam.

[serpa6]

No faith in god? That's irrelevant. No pride? No, they probably wouldn't. But the two have no relationship.
+
Gazz faith in god yes, but not all. Some Faith in there country, Belive it or not US who have served believe in our country, some more then others!!
Soldiers Creed No matter retired or Active this stays with you for Life

I am an American Soldier.

I am a warrior and a member of a team.

I serve the people of the United States, and live the Army Values.

I will always place the mission first.

I will never accept defeat.

I will never quit.

I will never leave a fallen comrade.

I am disciplined, physically and mentally tough, trained and proficient in my warrior tasks and drills.

I always maintain my arms, my equipment and myself.

I am an expert and I am a professional.

I stand ready to deploy, engage, and destroy, the enemies of the United States of America in close combat.

I am a guardian of freedom and the AMERICAN WAY OF LIFE.

I am an American Soldier.

I am a believer in the American way of life, that means I believe in this great country and in the event of war Civil or foreign, I still would protect these United States and everyone who live's in it
Why would I still do this, even though it seem's to everyone over there seems like political and economic faliers, happen time and time again. Because I would not live any ware else in the world Except here in the Great USA
PS dont knock it till you try it

[eaglethebeagle]

Iranian general: military strike would be the end of Israel
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DUBAI (Reuters) - A high-ranking Iranian general said on Saturday Israeli military action against Iran's nuclear program would lead to the collapse of the Jewish state, Fars news agency reported.
Last week's round of nuclear talks between Iran and world powers in Moscow failed to secure a breakthrough, heightening fears Israel might take unilateral military action to curb Iran's nuclear activities.

The two sides agreed to a follow-up meeting of technical experts on July 3, saving the process from outright failure.
"They cannot do the slightest harm to the (Iranian) revolution and the system," Brigadier General Mostafa Izadi, deputy chief of staff of Iran's armed forces, told Fars.
"If the Zionist regime takes any (military) actions against Iran, it would result in the end of its labors," he added.
"If they act logically, such threats amount to a psychological war but if they want to act illogically, it is they who will be destroyed."
Izadi's comments are an apparent response to Israeli Vice Prime Minister Shaul Mofaz's calls for tougher sanctions against Tehran and his indication that military action was still an option.

Analysts say Iranian officials use such rhetoric as a way of stoking Western concerns of chaos in the Middle East and the disruption of oil supplies in the event of military action.
During negotiations in Moscow the six powers - the United States, China, Russia, France, Britain and Germany - demanded Iran scale back its nuclear work and, in particular, stop enriching uranium to levels that could bring it close to making an atom bomb.

The demands included the shutting down of the Fordow underground uranium enrichment facility and the shipping of any stockpile out of the country.
In return, they offered fuel to keep Iran's medical isotope reactor running, assistance in nuclear safety and an end to a ban on spare parts for Iran's ageing civilian aircraft.
Iran denies its work has any military purpose and says the powers should offer it relief from sanctions and acknowledge its right to enrich uranium before it meets their demands.

(Reporting By Marcus George; Editing by Rosalind Russell)

[gazzthompson]

no surprise there then, attack Iran and they wil retaliate.

[Clodius]

no surprise there then, attack Iran and they wil retaliate.
I can't think of any country that wouldn't retaliate after being attacked. So as Gazz stated, "no surprise there then"! Is this WWIII thing part of the rapture plan or is it just traditional Christian Armageddon prophecy fulfillment envy.

[eaglethebeagle]

I can't think of any country that wouldn't retaliate after being attacked. So as Gazz stated, "no surprise there then"! Is this WWIII thing part of the rapture plan or is it just traditional Christian Armageddon prophecy fulfillment envy.

Its really simple not so complicated but for you I suppose the comprehension is above elementary level and you cant hang. If Israel decides they are all done listening to threats of annihilation from the islamic republic and they decide to punch Iran in the mouth it will lead to other countries including America being involved.

If you dont think so please explain what you think will happen? It is great comedy to hear the minds of gazz and clodius struggle to work.

[gazzthompson]

You're having an imaginary argument with yourself again.

[Clodius]

I'm glad you were able to break it down simply for me to understand Eagle, forgive me for not being at your genius level. So if Israel attacks Iran its Iran's fault, or did I not grasp what it was you were trying to get across? Do I need to read Revelations to get a strategic overview?

[eaglethebeagle]

If russia was every other day out in public with putin saying we will wipe America off the map it is our islamic destiny to do so I believe by now that America would have made sure that never would happen.

clodus it really is only you for the most part that needs help with connecting dots as everyone else does more than adequate.

[Clodius]

Well what can I say, I wasn't blessed with the "I see enemies under my bed gene" so that's probably where I'm falling short. I'll try to dig up Teebow's email for a consult.

[eaglethebeagle]

Ok sending me pictures of yourself at your gay pride parade is uncalled for Clodius.

I agree to disagree with you on everything just dont send me anymore pictures of yourself expressing yourself in public. thanks

[Clodius]

Interesting...I wouldn't know off hand where to find such images...keep digging that hole!

[Benda]

...I wouldn't know off hand where to find such images..
Kidding right???


Boy George's "1001 Cocks, whoops I thought it was the mic"

[Clodius]

A little lame wasn't it Benda? Pffftt...

[eaglethebeagle]

A little lame wasn't it Benda? Pffftt...

LOL so defensive for a straight guy. Well your a outspoken liberal so it is not a difficult deduction that your full out gay rights supporter too.

[Benda]

A little lame wasn't it Benda? Pffftt...

Lame? Probably just the Australian sense of humor my friend.....We learn to laugh at things like this from a young age, meaning that when people take the piss, we aren't so easily butthurt.

In fact, I see more humor in your recent homosexual slurs, which seemingly contradict your apparent lack of knowledge on the subject of gay stereotypes....as has been presented in this thread.

I was only highlighting the irony as I saw it...to me THIS IS humorous.

If your feelings were hurt by that, then damn, can I metaphorically suggest that you need to grow a set.

(No offence)

[BrendenF11]

What's wrong with advocating equality among all United States citizens? Just because they live a bit more vile lifestyle doesn't mean they are not equal in the eyes of the law of this country. Kind of reminds me of a quote from Blazing Saddles.

"All right. We'll give some land to the niggers and the chinks, but we don't want the Irish!"

[Clodius]

Lame? Probably just the Australian sense of humor my friend.....We learn to laugh at things like this from a young age, meaning that when people take the piss, we aren't so easily butthurt.

In fact, I see more humor in your recent homosexual slurs, which seemingly contradict your apparent lack of knowledge on the subject of gay stereotypes....as has been presented in this thread.

I was only highlighting the irony as I saw it...to me THIS IS humorous.

If your feelings were hurt by that, then damn, can I metaphorically suggest that you need to grow a set.

(No offence)
Very eloquently put, hahahaha...

[LRB]

This thread is going nowhere, just like the myriad of other threads started by Eagle. Every thread he starts makes him seem a little more unhinged & paranoid. I'm convinced the exclamation marks (3 of them) in the thread title are indicative of barely contained glee rather than fearful concern & that's where Eagle is coming from, he can't fucking wait for somebody to nuke somebody else, he probably orgasms at the thought of it. Eagle, seriously, this stuff makes you come off as a paranoid delusional fruit loop. It's just funny to read some of your previous insane ramblings & then listen to you defend said brain farts with so called reasoned discussion.

Get out of your backyard bunker for a while, take a load off, get laid, whatever, just enjoy your life like a lot of other people or you'll give yourself a ulcer or worse, a coronary!

[gazzthompson]

Lol'd ^^^

What is it with right wing bigots and talking about gay sex all the time? They seem to talk about anal adventuring more than the gays themselves. I bet eagle had them pictures saved on his harddrive. You know, for posting and stuff... not for personal viewing at all!

[wanny1971]

i want to bash eagle.. bash* BASH** BASH***.. eagle bashed :lol:

[eaglethebeagle]

i want to bash eagle.. bash* BASH** BASH***.. eagle bashed :lol:


LOL Wanny1971 funny isnt it? Same shit different day and maybe I can collect a little paycheck from Stark for these dimwitted fools that login only to post their vitriol for me. They are so frustrated by my opinion they continue to read my post and do it every day. LOL what is the definition of insanity? To do the same thing over and over and expect a different outcome...:hb:

[eaglethebeagle]

This thread is going nowhere, just like the myriad of other threads started by Eagle. Every thread he starts makes him seem a little more unhinged & paranoid. I'm convinced the exclamation marks (3 of them) in the thread title are indicative of barely contained glee rather than fearful concern & that's where Eagle is coming from, he can't fucking wait for somebody to nuke somebody else, he probably orgasms at the thought of it. Eagle, seriously, this stuff makes you come off as a paranoid delusional fruit loop. It's just funny to read some of your previous insane ramblings & then listen to you defend said brain farts with so called reasoned discussion.

Get out of your backyard bunker for a while, take a load off, get laid, whatever, just enjoy your life like a lot of other people or you'll give yourself a ulcer or worse, a coronary!

Congrats on your 5th post here bro keep em coming. With such informative and news worthy takes on current events like this your only months from a Pulitzer prize.

[LRB]

Well Eagle, I'm a big believer in quality over quantity, what can I say? I see that you've got loads of posts under your belt, but does scribbling his every thought all over his padded cell make a lunatic a genius? You addressed nothing of what I said in my post & on the internetz that means you lost the argument, nana-na-na-na!

Just out of curiosity though, are you excited for WW3 or concerned? You still sound a bit paranoid about most things anyway though, perhaps a therapist could help?

Oh & this makes my 6th post, damn, I can already smell that Pulitzer!

[serpa6]

Ok men and ladies
We shall ceasefire and get back on this post and what will happen and How
This bashing shall cease there is no need for it we are all grown ups
Everyone's opinions and how in there own mind think, how, why, where and when is welcome. But please ceasefire.
This shall be the last post I make in this thread and the thread now will be heavily moderated. Maybe we can salvage this thread it is a good subject.

[serpa6]

Ok men and ladies
We shall ceasefire and get back on this post and what will happen and How
This bashing shall cease there is no need for it we are all grown ups
Everyone's opinions and how in there own mind think, how, why, where and when is welcome. But please ceasefire.
This shall be the last post I make in this thread and the thread now will be heavily moderated. Maybe we can salvage this thread it is a good subject.

[Clodius]

Oh noes...not rationality.