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ianstone
09-26-2010, 04:43 PM
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By Emma Graham-Harrison
KABUL, Sept 26 | Sun Sep 26, 2010 2:25pm EDT

KABUL, Sept 26 (Reuters) - Two NATO helicopters killed 30 insurgents on Pakistani (http://www.reuters.com/places/pakistan) soil after a rare manned puruit across the border from Afghanistan, NATO forces said on Sunday.
The two Apache attack helicopters from the NATO-led International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) crossed the border from eastern Afghanistan on Friday after the insurgents attacked a remote Afghan security outpost in Khost province.
ISAF spokesman Sergeant Matt Summers confirmed that the helicopters had attacked after crossing into Pakistan (http://www.reuters.com/places/pakistan). He did not comment on which countries' forces were involved, but the United States is the only coalition member that uses Apaches.
The United States regularly uses pilotless drone aircraft for missile strikes in Pakistan's borderlands, known to be a haven for militant groups including the Afghan Taliban who launch cross-border attacks from Pakistan's northwest.
However, manned military flights across the border are extremely rare.
ISAF said in a statement issued late on Sunday that the helicopters were following its rules of engagement when they crossed into Pakistan.
Two Kiowa helicopters returned to the area on Saturday and killed at least four more insurgents, the statement said.
ISAF was not immediately able to confirm whether the Kiowa helicopters had also crossed the border. U.S. forces make up the majority of ISAF troops in Afghanistan's east.
The drone flights have caused resentment in overwhelmingly Muslim Pakistan, where anti-American feeling runs high.
U.S. officials say the pilotless drones are one of the most effective weapons against militants. The strikes have killed senior Taliban and al Qaeda figures.
A new book by veteran U.S. journalist Bob Woodward claims that the Central Intelligence Agency also has a 3,000-man "covert army" of elite, well-trained Afghans, who conduct secret operations in Pakistan, according to the Washington Post.
The newspaper obtained an advance copy of the book, which is due for release on Monday.
Despite the presence of almost 150,000 foreign troops, violence is at its worst across Afghanistan since U.S.-backed Afghan forces ousted the Taliban in late 2001.
The Taliban-led insurgency has spread out of traditional strongholds in the south and east into once relatively stable areas in the north and west.
Apart from the Afghan Taliban, the al Qaeda-linked Haqqani network also operates extensively in Afghanistan's east and has launched a series of bold attacks against foreign forces and Afghan government targets in the past year.

fiestybean
10-08-2010, 12:38 AM
They entered Pakistani territory? In light of the drone incident that killed Pakistani troops not too long ago Im for sure read in stars and stripes that it was mentioned coalition aircraft havent done such thing. So what is closer to the truth? Also I thought the British RAF had Apaches as well? Any insight?

ianstone
10-08-2010, 06:02 AM
fiestybean,

In fact there have been many what they called "over fights" Coalition forces.
However this is the first time the Taliban were chased and kill after cross boarder fighting.
A great number of Taliban crossed back over the boarder and fired there weapons in defiance.
However this time there dangerous and smug behaviour cost them dearly.
A little the old western were the cavalry chased the Indians as for as the Rio grand,
then one day they got the green light. Who ever gave the green light should have a City named after them.
To be fare and no pun intended, It was a borderline Call, I doubt if all the Taliban had actually crossed back
into Pakistan before some dick started firing. I feel the Taliban actually straddled the boarder line.
Dead army, well I am led to believe that a soldier that turns a blind eye is not a friendly so their death is open to interpretation
Yes the Raf/Army air corps has Apaches, the do as many sorties as they can, however there only a few, the UK are still counting the pennies.
I hope that helps.

fiestybean
10-08-2010, 01:42 PM
Ah yes I see, I just dont see why they just open up they area for sorties to conduct missions if the Pakistani Gov't 'trully' wanted to help, so to put more pressure on retreating taliban forces in No Man's Land, if they do even manage to get that far lol and would figure communication of some sort would help limit friendly fire incidents...but who knows how much you can really trust them. Guess you just gotta work with what you got. Thanks for the insight